How did Mitt Romney win the Republican Nomination?

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23 Apr 2012, 3:37 am

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Really? It's the Republicans who get their voters to ignore their own economic interests by appealing to the baser aspects of their nature, by playing on fears of gays, Muslims, blacks, and modern science, etc. The Republicans don't fear their constituents; they play on their constituent's fears, which is born of contempt for them.

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And the Democrats play on your fear of the Republicans, as evidenced by your oft repeated mischaracterizations of them seen above. You've bought the Dem line hook line and sinker, or more likely were simply spoon fed it since birth. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the GOP either, I'm just a stickler for reality, and the reality is that the average conservative is a lot more like Hank Hill than Fred Phelps, liberal propaganda aside.

Really, what would Obama have to do in order to lose your vote? Aside from breaking every campaign promise of note, he's actually killing Americans and then putting every aspect of the process behind a veil of secrecy, so I'm really not sure what he'd have do to lose your support, perhaps something involving camps. Whatever it was, I'm sure he'd get your vote right back by blaming it on Republican intransigence and/or Fox news, especially if it was something he did unilaterally, like say starting an air war.
Open your eyes man, at least know it when you're getting used. I voted for the guy myself, remember? A mistake I won't be repeating, because I try to only get fooled the once.


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23 Apr 2012, 5:34 am

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How did he win?
Being somewhat in touch with reality, unlike the opposition.

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Why did people vote for him in such great numbers?
Maybe because Republicans are tired of looking like ret*d zealots led by corporate bottom-feeders...an army of ret*d sheep led by a worm-ridden jackal.

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What is his appeal?
He is neither evil like Newt Gingrich nor crazy as Hell like Santorum, and he isn't a thoroughly rotten and hateful bee-atch like Bachmann. He isn't a nobody like Huntsman. He is neither a flaky, know-nothing dumbass like Cain nor a useless hack like Paul. Beyond that, it doesn't take much.

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Clearly it couldn't have been his stand on any issue.
There is more to being a good candidate than taking "stands" on divisive and tawdry "social issues" that really have no bearing at all on day-to-day American life but appeal almost exclusively to bothersome fringe groups that care about nothing else whatsoever.

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His religion should have been a major handicap.
It was! However, everyone who cared two bits about this voted for Santorum, who made it self-evident to everyone else that he was a mentally unbalanced creep and a bigot who couldn't run for dog-catcher and win.

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How can this phenomenon be explained?
Simple, my dear Watson! Sometimes, it actually pays off to refrain from making a total ass of yourself for a while.



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23 Apr 2012, 7:15 am

WilliamWDelaney wrote:
Maybe because Republicans are tired of looking like ret*d zealots led by corporate bottom-feeders...an army of ret*d sheep led by a worm-ridden jackal.


So they vote for a corporate bottom-feeder?

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23 Apr 2012, 7:32 am

Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Really? It's the Republicans who get their voters to ignore their own economic interests by appealing to the baser aspects of their nature, by playing on fears of gays, Muslims, blacks, and modern science, etc. The Republicans don't fear their constituents; they play on their constituent's fears, which is born of contempt for them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


And the Democrats play on your fear of the Republicans, as evidenced by your oft repeated mischaracterizations of them seen above. You've bought the Dem line hook line and sinker, or more likely were simply spoon fed it since birth. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the GOP either, I'm just a stickler for reality, and the reality is that the average conservative is a lot more like Hank Hill than Fred Phelps, liberal propaganda aside.


Bill's characterization was correct. Just listening to the Repug propaganda is enough to scare normal people into voting against them--while the Greens or Socialists might be more appealing, it would be unpatriotic not to cast one's vote for the Democrats, and give the Repugs a chance to run the nation into the dirt.

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Really, what would Obama have to do in order to lose your vote?

If he were to work to destroy Medicare and Social Security, to promise tax cuts for millionaires and tax increases for the poor, then there would be no difference between him and the Repugs, and I would vote Green or Socialist.

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Aside from breaking every campaign promise of note,

He did pass the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was a "big deal", as our Vice President put it.

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he's actually killing Americans and then putting every aspect of the process behind a veil of secrecy, so I'm really not sure what he'd have do to lose your support, perhaps something involving camps.

His predecessor started the wars. He did pull out of Iraq. Romney wants to stay in Iraq longer, and start a war with Iran.

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Whatever it was, I'm sure he'd get your vote right back by blaming it on Republican intransigence and/or Fox news, especially if it was something he did unilaterally, like say starting an air war.

Not at all.

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Open your eyes man, at least know it when you're getting used.
Used for what?

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I voted for the guy myself, remember? A mistake I won't be repeating, because I try to only get fooled the once.

Why did you vote for him the first time?



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23 Apr 2012, 8:58 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
WilliamWDelaney wrote:
Maybe because Republicans are tired of looking like ret*d zealots led by corporate bottom-feeders...an army of ret*d sheep led by a worm-ridden jackal.


So they vote for a corporate bottom-feeder?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZTvdHQ0YKk[/youtube]
Nah, Mitt's actually medium-grade in that respect, and he might even have an actual conscience. Still not sure yet. I never have liked cut-throat business styles, though. It's one reason Wells Fargo can kiss my ass. Hostile takeovers...blech. Good video.



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23 Apr 2012, 11:01 am

Dox47 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Really? It's the Republicans who get their voters to ignore their own economic interests by appealing to the baser aspects of their nature, by playing on fears of gays, Muslims, blacks, and modern science, etc. The Republicans don't fear their constituents; they play on their constituent's fears, which is born of contempt for them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


And the Democrats play on your fear of the Republicans, as evidenced by your oft repeated mischaracterizations of them seen above. You've bought the Dem line hook line and sinker, or more likely were simply spoon fed it since birth. Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of the GOP either, I'm just a stickler for reality, and the reality is that the average conservative is a lot more like Hank Hill than Fred Phelps, liberal propaganda aside.

Really, what would Obama have to do in order to lose your vote? Aside from breaking every campaign promise of note, he's actually killing Americans and then putting every aspect of the process behind a veil of secrecy, so I'm really not sure what he'd have do to lose your support, perhaps something involving camps. Whatever it was, I'm sure he'd get your vote right back by blaming it on Republican intransigence and/or Fox news, especially if it was something he did unilaterally, like say starting an air war.
Open your eyes man, at least know it when you're getting used. I voted for the guy myself, remember? A mistake I won't be repeating, because I try to only get fooled the once.


What ArrantPariah said.

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23 Apr 2012, 11:28 am

Romney is the least bad of the lot.

Actually Romney does not exist. He is a holographic projection.

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23 Apr 2012, 11:46 am

ruveyn wrote:
Romney is the least bad of the lot.

Actually Romney does not exist. He is a holographic projection.

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I knew it!

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23 Apr 2012, 12:27 pm

Romney didn't win, his competition was so pathetic he crossed the finish line first. Now he must figure out how to compete in a real race.



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23 Apr 2012, 1:11 pm

Mitt Romney is a skilled liar. He can boldly lie and then immediately turn into an attack posture. That makes him a good politician, whatever his other failings. He'll confuse people into thinking he's won an exchange. His campaign also dumped enormous amounts of money into negative ads to tear down any opposition.



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23 Apr 2012, 1:12 pm

Republican desperation and annoyance with spending attack ads on one another. hell, they settled for Mitt Romney.


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23 Apr 2012, 1:18 pm

Right, they don't like him. He's just "next". Enthusiasm for Romney is low.

A Texas congressman jokingly said of him, "But let me just tell ya, if you are not sure about wanting to support Mitt Romney, whether you are liberal, whether you are very conservative, you ought to be excited because he’s been on your side at one time or another,”



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23 Apr 2012, 9:49 pm

This Republican and Democrat cr@p just keeps us peasants divided and quarreling amongst ourselves.
Meanwhile, both parties represent multi-national corporations, billionaires, and whoever else pays them the most money. Ain't capitalism grand!



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25 Apr 2012, 9:12 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
What ArrantPariah said.

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I was kinda hoping for your opinion Bill, that's why I asked you.


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25 Apr 2012, 11:27 pm

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Kraichgauer wrote:
What ArrantPariah said.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I was kinda hoping for your opinion Bill, that's why I asked you.


Sure the Democrats are preying on my fears of the Republicans. I'm glad they've informed me on that there's a lot to be afraid of. The Ryan budget calls for cutting medicaid, food stamps, school lunches, education, subsidized housing, and everything else good and proper the government offers - and yet increases the Goddamn tax cuts for the rich. As for social security - - the plan, according to Senator Ryan, is that the elderly would get a coupon to cover for the first two months of nursing care or assisted living, and then would have to fend for themselves the rest of the time. This is not Democratic hyperbole, this is what the Republicans figure will save the country. Well, save the country for the wealthiest of them. Add to that union busting - which is happening in Wisconsin - the vilification of the poor and Muslim Americans - which is no longer being hidden behind code words - and barely concealed racism - which is behind the anti-illegal immigrant campaign in Arizona and elsewhere to prevent the "browning of America" - among other matters. There is plenty to be afraid of.

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