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Kraichgauer
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13 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:
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My favorite is Thor in Germanic Mythology.


I tend to appreciate Wodan/Odin the most, as he typifies the battle lust, constant change in fortune, and ultimate glorious doom in not only Germanic myth, but also in Germanic Pre-Christian culture.
Not that I'd trade my longevity and cushy, peaceful life for that.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


On the other hand, Odin is also a double-dealing bastard second only to Loki, and at least Loki has an excuse.


When thinking about Odin/Wodan, I think back to the Danish Hrolf Kraki's Saga, with the memorable line, "Odin, the foul and untrue, who gives victory to cowards who deserve it not."
As a deity associated with war, I think the sudden change of fortune for the combatants would cause them to believe that the All Father was f*****g with them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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13 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
My favorite is Thor in Germanic Mythology.


I tend to appreciate Wodan/Odin the most, as he typifies the battle lust, constant change in fortune, and ultimate glorious doom in not only Germanic myth, but also in Germanic Pre-Christian culture.
Not that I'd trade my longevity and cushy, peaceful life for that.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


On the other hand, Odin is also a double-dealing bastard second only to Loki, and at least Loki has an excuse.


When thinking about Odin/Wodan, I think back to the Danish Hrolf Kraki's Saga, with the memorable line, "Odin, the foul and untrue, who gives victory to cowards who deserve it not."
As a deity associated with war, I think the sudden change of fortune for the combatants would cause them to believe that the All Father was f***ing with them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He was I wish Odin was real though.



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13 Jun 2012, 9:51 pm

Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
My favorite is Thor in Germanic Mythology.


I tend to appreciate Wodan/Odin the most, as he typifies the battle lust, constant change in fortune, and ultimate glorious doom in not only Germanic myth, but also in Germanic Pre-Christian culture.
Not that I'd trade my longevity and cushy, peaceful life for that.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


On the other hand, Odin is also a double-dealing bastard second only to Loki, and at least Loki has an excuse.


When thinking about Odin/Wodan, I think back to the Danish Hrolf Kraki's Saga, with the memorable line, "Odin, the foul and untrue, who gives victory to cowards who deserve it not."
As a deity associated with war, I think the sudden change of fortune for the combatants would cause them to believe that the All Father was f***ing with them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He was I wish Odin was real though.


I don't. Those are some brilliant stories to read and made for great writing and RPG fodder, but Odin is a total as*hole and makes zero apologies for it. I'll pass.


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13 Jun 2012, 11:01 pm

Lord_Gareth wrote:
Joker wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Lord_Gareth wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Joker wrote:
My favorite is Thor in Germanic Mythology.


I tend to appreciate Wodan/Odin the most, as he typifies the battle lust, constant change in fortune, and ultimate glorious doom in not only Germanic myth, but also in Germanic Pre-Christian culture.
Not that I'd trade my longevity and cushy, peaceful life for that.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


On the other hand, Odin is also a double-dealing bastard second only to Loki, and at least Loki has an excuse.


When thinking about Odin/Wodan, I think back to the Danish Hrolf Kraki's Saga, with the memorable line, "Odin, the foul and untrue, who gives victory to cowards who deserve it not."
As a deity associated with war, I think the sudden change of fortune for the combatants would cause them to believe that the All Father was f***ing with them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


He was I wish Odin was real though.


I don't. Those are some brilliant stories to read and made for great writing and RPG fodder, but Odin is a total as*hole and makes zero apologies for it. I'll pass.


At least his son Thor is cool



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13 Jun 2012, 11:53 pm

If you like your heroic myths with a more Christian flavor, you might try and read Beowulf.



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14 Jun 2012, 12:38 am

Evinceo wrote:
If you like your heroic myths with a more Christian flavor, you might try and read Beowulf.


Beowulf, like the Nibelungenlied, had been recorded in Christian times, and so the most pagan elements had been eradicated.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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14 Jun 2012, 12:42 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
Evinceo wrote:
If you like your heroic myths with a more Christian flavor, you might try and read Beowulf.


Beowulf, like the Nibelungenlied, had been recorded in Christian times, and so the most pagan elements had been eradicated.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I wrote a college essay on that exact point-they also inserted several Christian sections, but all in places where it would be easy to swap in a verse or two.



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14 Jun 2012, 12:48 am

Evinceo wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Evinceo wrote:
If you like your heroic myths with a more Christian flavor, you might try and read Beowulf.


Beowulf, like the Nibelungenlied, had been recorded in Christian times, and so the most pagan elements had been eradicated.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I wrote a college essay on that exact point-they also inserted several Christian sections, but all in places where it would be easy to swap in a verse or two.


Fascinating. What did you study in college?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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15 Jun 2012, 8:03 am

Same here, The gods of the Greek pantheon are divided here into several categories. The first three of these--the Olympian gods, Titan gods, & primeval gods--represent the three different generations of gods to rule the cosmos. The next five categories divide the gods according to domain, namely the gods of sky, sea, earth and underworld. The final category contains personifications, those gods and spirits which represented abstract ideas, human emotions and conditions.