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Is Slavery a Christian Value?
YES. Every TRUE Christian MUST support slavery! 35%  35%  [ 9 ]
Maybe. In principle only, as Christians are "Slaves to Christ". 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
Whatever, Fnord ... don't you have something better to do? 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
Maybe Not. This may be just one of Paul's metaphorical stories. 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
NO. Slavery is WRONG no matter what your religion! 35%  35%  [ 9 ]
On Planet X, only robots are slaves. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other: ________________ (Please Explain Below). 8%  8%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 26

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12 Sep 2012, 4:00 pm

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Christianity is always made to embrace whatever the society it exists in wants it to.

If you criticize Christianity, I'll assume you are not a Christian. In this case, I'll give you some good advice: Let the silly interpret their own book as they will. You don't have to fight them on their own ground. You don't have to use their wrong method to find out that they are wrong. Be more critical.


My problem with interpretation is that it's all based on opinion, which is why there is so many denominations, I take the bible as either 100% true or 100% false, there is NO in between for holy books, and I have read it and reject it on the grounds that this supposed "Good God" is the most vile, evil, despicable being in all of existence.

It is a very wrong reason to reject anything. Obviously the God of the Old Testament was vengeful and horrible. Why would it make it any less true than if he was kind? Can you really just decide what is in function of what you would want to be?

Also, notice than books are books, whether they are holy or not, and that books are never 100% in the right, and rarely 100% in the wrong. Being critical is not rejecting everything that is bound between two covers because you don't like what people do with it.

I don't see why anyone wanting to discredit Christianity should even care about the content, much less use scholastics to discredit it -- this very method is exactly what is most wrong with any religion based on holy writings in the first place. To be honest, what is argued to have happened is thoroughly irrelevant to the veracity of such texts. There is absolutely no way to determine whether or not the universe was the work of a divine creator in the first place, and any further action by said hypothetical creator after the moment of creation is also beyond knowledge.



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12 Sep 2012, 4:22 pm

enrico_dandolo wrote:
TheKing wrote:
enrico_dandolo wrote:
Christianity is always made to embrace whatever the society it exists in wants it to.

If you criticize Christianity, I'll assume you are not a Christian. In this case, I'll give you some good advice: Let the silly interpret their own book as they will. You don't have to fight them on their own ground. You don't have to use their wrong method to find out that they are wrong. Be more critical.


My problem with interpretation is that it's all based on opinion, which is why there is so many denominations, I take the bible as either 100% true or 100% false, there is NO in between for holy books, and I have read it and reject it on the grounds that this supposed "Good God" is the most vile, evil, despicable being in all of existence.

It is a very wrong reason to reject anything. Obviously the God of the Old Testament was vengeful and horrible. Why would it make it any less true than if he was kind? Can you really just decide what is in function of what you would want to be?

Also, notice than books are books, whether they are holy or not, and that books are never 100% in the right, and rarely 100% in the wrong. Being critical is not rejecting everything that is bound between two covers because you don't like what people do with it.

I don't see why anyone wanting to discredit Christianity should even care about the content, much less use scholastics to discredit it -- this very method is exactly what is most wrong with any religion based on holy writings in the first place. To be honest, what is argued to have happened is thoroughly irrelevant to the veracity of such texts. There is absolutely no way to determine whether or not the universe was the work of a divine creator in the first place, and any further action by said hypothetical creator after the moment of creation is also beyond knowledge.


Personally I'm agnostic to the idea of a God(s), I find it it possible a God(s) exists, just very VERY improbable. But I'm atheist to the God of Man, I outright deny the existence of any God(s) man claims is the right God(s) until they show evidence that their God(s) is the correct one, and it's very doubtful that evidence exists.. I also find it very arrogant for them to assume that they have a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP with the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE. I have never heard anything more arrogant than that statement right there. And I hate arrogance with a burning passion.


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12 Sep 2012, 7:16 pm

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And here's Mark 10:15 for your consideration...

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"I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."

Obviously, this means we should all come to God as would a child; abandoning all doubt, knowledge, reason, and understanding, and trusting wholly in those perverted, self-serving, quasi-political shepherds we call "Pastors" and Priests".


No no no, you are taking it out of context and misinterpreting it, you need to interpret it correctly 'become like children' does not mean 'become childlike' but to become comparable to children is to be in the same situation as children – that is, to be born again. My interpretation is more true than your interpretation because I say it is, so I'm going to heaven and not you because I'm better than you and God loves me more and I just want to be loved because my priest touches me more than my parents, blah, blah, blah.

This apostasy shall not be treated lightly! Dost not thou knowest that it is the literal interpretation that matters? It clearly indicates that only those who approach Him like a child will see Heaven.

So if your IQ is 61 or over ... dog, we're all doomed!

DOOMED, I say!



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13 Sep 2012, 12:40 am

Fnord wrote:
TheKing wrote:
Fnord wrote:
And here's Mark 10:15 for your consideration...

Mark wrote:
"I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it."

Obviously, this means we should all come to God as would a child; abandoning all doubt, knowledge, reason, and understanding, and trusting wholly in those perverted, self-serving, quasi-political shepherds we call "Pastors" and Priests".


No no no, you are taking it out of context and misinterpreting it, you need to interpret it correctly 'become like children' does not mean 'become childlike' but to become comparable to children is to be in the same situation as children – that is, to be born again. My interpretation is more true than your interpretation because I say it is, so I'm going to heaven and not you because I'm better than you and God loves me more and I just want to be loved because my priest touches me more than my parents, blah, blah, blah.

This apostasy shall not be treated lightly! Dost not thou knowest that it is the literal interpretation that matters? It clearly indicates that only those who approach Him like a child will see Heaven.

So if your IQ is 61 or over ... dog, we're all doomed!

DOOMED, I say!


As a Christian, I am proud for my IQ to be in the negatives thank you very much good sir! XD


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