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Will gun confiscation start the Second American Civil War
Very Likely 44%  44%  [ 19 ]
No 35%  35%  [ 15 ]
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19 Dec 2012, 1:56 am

So Feinstein packs a pistol.

Where did you pick up that information?

That little tidbit could be gold in the right hands.


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19 Dec 2012, 2:02 am

Paranoia.



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19 Dec 2012, 2:05 am

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Whats the first thing every dictator does? Take the power away from the people.

Its when the democratic process is eroded that you need to worry and do something about it.



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19 Dec 2012, 2:05 am

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19 Dec 2012, 2:09 am

nostromo wrote:
MXH wrote:
Whats the first thing every dictator does? Take the power away from the people.

Its when the democratic process is eroded that you need to worry and do something about it.


It doesnt matter if we have a pseudo election if the electorate is always the same. Its like if the election was putin, or putin. With dark horse contestant putin. See where Im going? As it currently is the fed government is far beyond what the founding fathers ever wanted it to be. It should have been overthrown in the 1950s.



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19 Dec 2012, 2:11 am

PM wrote:
So Feinstein packs a pistol.

Where did you pick up that information?

That little tidbit could be gold in the right hands.

She used to, in spite of wanting to confiscate every last gun from everyone else. She gave up the permit and gun, and now has armed guards like so many other liberal politicians and wealthy contributors.


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19 Dec 2012, 2:19 am

MXH wrote:
nostromo wrote:
MXH wrote:
Whats the first thing every dictator does? Take the power away from the people.

Its when the democratic process is eroded that you need to worry and do something about it.


It doesnt matter if we have a pseudo election if the electorate is always the same. Its like if the election was putin, or putin. With dark horse contestant putin. See where Im going? As it currently is the fed government is far beyond what the founding fathers ever wanted it to be. It should have been overthrown in the 1950s.

Theres nothing pseudo about it at all. Democracy in a country with freedoms represents the will of the majority of the people.
Gotta better idea?



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19 Dec 2012, 2:25 am

nostromo wrote:
MXH wrote:
nostromo wrote:
MXH wrote:
Whats the first thing every dictator does? Take the power away from the people.

Its when the democratic process is eroded that you need to worry and do something about it.


It doesnt matter if we have a pseudo election if the electorate is always the same. Its like if the election was putin, or putin. With dark horse contestant putin. See where Im going? As it currently is the fed government is far beyond what the founding fathers ever wanted it to be. It should have been overthrown in the 1950s.

Theres nothing pseudo about it at all. Democracy in a country with freedoms represents the will of the majority of the people.
Gotta better idea?


Yes, but when the democracy is run by a select group that get to pick who they want you have a shadow government. And with voters so in the blind its not hard to see how its gotten this way.



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19 Dec 2012, 3:02 am

No, as they'll just "grandfather" them and ban the future sales of such (if they do).

Killing all the birds in one shot.



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19 Dec 2012, 3:14 am

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The whole point of the second ammendment was to do this. To retake power from a government consumed by it.

Whats the first thing every dictator does? Take the power away from the people. That gives the offset in power so large theres no chance of a revolution, only a coup would be able to bring back order.


exactly. Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin... They all loved their gun control, and look at what they did.


There's truth to this. People on the left will call you crazy and say that Obama isn't a dictator etc etc and he isn't and shouldn't be compared to these guys...but there is a mindset that'll lead to some sort of totaliterianism(sp?)...most people on the left feel like they are doing the right thing, and want to do the right thing, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

So yes, Obama and the left don't have to be Hitler or Pol Pot to enact things that help to consolidate power with the federal goverment and get people hooked...whether it's handouts or protection....they want to run the show, and a lot of people in this country will let them....


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19 Dec 2012, 4:28 am

MXH wrote:
nostromo wrote:
MXH wrote:
nostromo wrote:
MXH wrote:
Whats the first thing every dictator does? Take the power away from the people.

Its when the democratic process is eroded that you need to worry and do something about it.


It doesnt matter if we have a pseudo election if the electorate is always the same. Its like if the election was putin, or putin. With dark horse contestant putin. See where Im going? As it currently is the fed government is far beyond what the founding fathers ever wanted it to be. It should have been overthrown in the 1950s.

Theres nothing pseudo about it at all. Democracy in a country with freedoms represents the will of the majority of the people.
Gotta better idea?


Yes, but when the democracy is run by a select group that get to pick who they want you have a shadow government. And with voters so in the blind its not hard to see how its gotten this way.


Hopefully you are not referring to the Illuminatti or some other type of conspiracy theory.

The shadow government is as plain as day, the 1% has pretty much enslaved the 99% and gun control is just a tool to further control the poor and working classes.


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19 Dec 2012, 8:44 am

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No, as they'll just "grandfather" them and ban the future sales of such (if they do).

Killing all the birds in one shot.


Unfortunately, I've hearing rumors (or rumours) that the new AWB law will not have a grandfather cause, if you are referring to that. Or any gun control measure for matter. Also, Obama may try to sign the UN small arms treaty by executive Order. I really hope the President can't pull this off.


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19 Dec 2012, 9:09 am

NorthPark wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
No, as they'll just "grandfather" them and ban the future sales of such (if they do).

Killing all the birds in one shot.


Unfortunately, I've hearing rumors (or rumours) that the new AWB law will not have a grandfather cause, if you are referring to that. Or any gun control measure for matter. Also, Obama may try to sign the UN small arms treaty by executive Order. I really hope the President can't pull this off.


Only two things will stop it. The Courts or a Congress willing to impeach and convict.

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19 Dec 2012, 9:10 am

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exactly. Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin... They all loved their gun control, and look at what they did.


So you think they become dictators by legal weapon use? O_o Hmmm...maybe they had been so much for gun control, because they were the person who knew best, that free weaponry allows crazy as*hole people to gather other crazy armed marauders around them, to dominate others by violence and weaponry?



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19 Dec 2012, 9:33 am

Schneekugel wrote:
DerStadtschutz wrote:

exactly. Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin... They all loved their gun control, and look at what they did.


So you think they become dictators by legal weapon use? O_o Hmmm...maybe they had been so much for gun control, because they were the person who knew best, that free weaponry allows crazy as*hole people to gather other crazy armed marauders around them, to dominate others by violence and weaponry?


No, they more used their "reasonable gun control" measures to round up legal gun owners from their previous regimes, people that'd resist. But if you're a violent marauder, you're not going to care about gun laws at all. Mexico has very strict gun laws, some of their guns are coming from America, but not their hand grenades, 40mm high explosive grenades, full auto AKs and M16s, etc. If you're going to be a paramilitary organization, you've outgrown buying guns at the gun shop.



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19 Dec 2012, 9:44 am

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No, they more used their "reasonable gun control" measures to round up legal gun owners from their previous regimes, people that'd resist. But if you're a violent marauder, you're not going to care about gun laws at all. Mexico has very strict gun laws, some of their guns are coming from America, but not their hand grenades, 40mm high explosive grenades, full auto AKs and M16s, etc. If you're going to be a paramilitary organization, you've outgrown buying guns at the gun shop.


On to RPGs! Also shoulder launched anti aircraft missiles. The Afghans started to beat the Russians after Charlie Wilson was able to get stinger missiles and other high powered military class weapons to them.

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