FUC*ING signs
I wouldn't call it fooling in all cases.
The explanation that applies to me is that I'm usually rejected by people (socially, not romantically or sexually – I don't even get that far). So when someone is actually friendly to me, I sometimes misunderstand that as flirting.
I do that too....
edit: and sometimes I view flirting as just being friendly and I have missed out on COUNTLESS relationships/hookups due to that, which is even more frustrating than the prior
It looks like a lot of these women can't be that happy/sexually fulfilled in their relationships if they're feeling the need to flirt so heavily with other men.
Some may be bored in their relationships or they might just like the power trip of being able to get a man all hot and bothered
I don't relate to this type of woman - it's usually the ultra-feminine, really up themself, 'I can get any man I want' types who engage in this type of behaviour and it wouldn't happen if men didn't act like lapdogs when this type of woman clicked her fingers
I'm clueless, myself so don't have much constructive to add.
Not to single you out, but your post seems to be a theme for some men, and my questions are meant the same. Why do men have such a feeling of victimization about women? How can a women (or anyone) make you do something? There are no guarantees or promises in life...taking a women to dinner doesn't mean she's cheating you out of sex if she demurs. I find this mindset very frightening, because there's no ownership there.
Try not to look at women as mere female versions of men. They typically have different brains from males and, therefore, different perspectives and values.
My theory is women generally value emotional bonding more than romantic and/or sexual bond. Whereas for men, it's the other way around.
That is why single women value platonic friendships with single men (and get devastated if a man they view as just a guy friend and whom they themselves rejected ends up ceasing contact with them) and can't understand why single men don't value the same thing as much.
Ding Ding Ding
We have a winner. I am not being sarcastic. You have correctly figured out what was actually going on in that exchange. I've been having exchanges like that all my life (as the woman) and you are 100% correct.
edited to add: I have never given a random man my phone number. But doing so was much less common in my day since cellphones hadn't been invented yet.
I wouldn't call it fooling in all cases.
The explanation that applies to me is that I'm usually rejected by people (socially, not romantically or sexually – I don't even get that far). So when someone is actually friendly to me, I sometimes misunderstand that as flirting.
I guess it depends on the person and scenario.
I never said which sex does it more often. I was talking in very general terms, and sure, unless someone physically coërces you to pay attention to them, it is you who enables them to waste your time, but I don’t think that makes it any less enjoyable for them—quite the opposite
Try not to look at women as mere female versions of men. They typically have different brains from males and, therefore, different perspectives and values.
My theory is women generally value emotional bonding more than romantic and/or sexual bond. Whereas for men, it's the other way around.
That is why single women value platonic friendships with single men (and get devastated if a man they view as just a guy friend and whom they themselves rejected ends up ceasing contact with them) and can't understand why single men don't value the same thing as much.
Ding Ding Ding
We have a winner. I am not being sarcastic. You have correctly figured out what was actually going on in that exchange. I've been having exchanges like that all my life (as the woman) and you are 100% correct.
edited to add: I have never given a random man my phone number. But doing so was much less common in my day since cellphones hadn't been invented yet.
Thanks for your personal verification of what I had stated.
It's not even my own personal theory anyway and it's not just supported by anecdotes. There was a study conducted that showed that men were more bothered by the idea of their women having passionate sex with other men than the idea that they were emotionally close to other men. For women, it was the other way around.
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How autistic are your two boys? Are they the type that strangers in the room with them would notice there's something odd about them?
They were both dx'd with PDD-NOS. The older one went through intensive Early Intervention and the other one is mild PDD-NOS and is currently undergoing Early Intervention. Both of them you wouldn't necessarily know from looking at them that they are on the spectrum unless you knew what to look for. With the older one it comes out in his literal thinking, his special interests, sensory issues, difficulty with transitions, his inability to navigate in groups, sporadic eye contact/selective hearing, his inability to control/recover from his anger, and overstimulation at parties. His repetitive behaviors are much diminished and he can now make a back-and-forth conversation and makes much more eye contact than previously, and will even engage in pretend play which he didn't before. My youngest still has no speech, makes sporadic eye contact, has various sensory issues, gets overstimulated at parties and has repetitive behaviors. Both children are still very self-directed.
This is what I think:
Case 1 - thought you were gay (I've concluded this based on how quickly she was at ease in your presence and the touching, sharing of personal information etc that is not usual behaviour around hetro male-female relations imo)
Case 2 - probably utterly miserable in her marriage (hence no wedding ring and relishing your attention)
Case 3 - likely highly insecure (as is making a huge deal out of something that shouldn't be. Not talking to someone with headphones on is totally reasonable. I wish more people would take the hint [as I've had people try and talk to me - I mean weirdo's at bus stops etc -regardless of the headphones and it's really annoying).
Case 1 - thought you were gay (I've concluded this based on how quickly she was at ease in your presence and the touching, sharing of personal information etc that is not usual behaviour around hetro male-female relations imo)
Case 2 - probably utterly miserable in her marriage (hence no wedding ring and relishing your attention)
Case 3 - likely highly insecure (as is making a huge deal out of something that shouldn't be. Not talking to someone with headphones on is totally reasonable. I wish more people would take the hint [as I've had people try and talk to me - I mean weirdo's at bus stops etc -regardless of the headphones and it's really annoying).
so normal people are allowed to bug other normal people when they have their earphones on? "oh just a quick question"
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