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29 Apr 2013, 3:51 pm

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My friend has assured me this therapy is pretty effective. I'm just going by what someone with insights knows.


But you haven't answered my question about what is the goal of that therapy.



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29 Apr 2013, 4:46 pm

I think this thread started as a way to be inappropriate and funny at the same time.
But I'll take a psycho over a convicted molester any day.
Mental illness I get,sex with kids I don't.


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29 Apr 2013, 4:55 pm

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I think this thread started as a way to be inappropriate and funny at the same time.
But I'll take a psycho over a convicted molester any day.
Mental illness I get,sex with kids I don't.
Amen toss them into a [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxj2ob_JoU[/youtube] LOL sorry I couldnt help myself I just love volcanos!!


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29 Apr 2013, 4:58 pm

jekenai wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
My friend has assured me this therapy is pretty effective. I'm just going by what someone with insights knows.


But you haven't answered my question about what is the goal of that therapy.


Sorry, I must have misread your last post.
The goal essentially is to make them disinclined to want to have sex with children, while giving them incentive to have attraction to adult. Don't ask me how this is done, as I am not privy to the therapy. As this is offered to convicted sex offenders who are promised earlier and easier parole, and a chance to downgrade their sex offender level, and who clearly don't want to return to prison, I can see the appeal to work with the therapy. Granted, there have been too many sex offenders who repeat their crimes, but there are those who you and I never hear about who have made a change.

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29 Apr 2013, 5:25 pm

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I think this thread started as a way to be inappropriate and funny at the same time.
But I'll take a psycho over a convicted molester any day.
Mental illness I get,sex with kids I don't.


But psychos are serial killers and have no qualms cutting you into pieces and eating you.



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29 Apr 2013, 6:59 pm

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Misslizard wrote:
I think this thread started as a way to be inappropriate and funny at the same time.
But I'll take a psycho over a convicted molester any day.
Mental illness I get,sex with kids I don't.


But psychos are serial killers and have no qualms cutting you into pieces and eating you.


How often does that happen compared to a child being molested?
Let the serial killers feast on the CONVICTED molesters.I bet they would taste bad,ugh.
A hippie on organic food would be tastier,but they are harmless folks,so they get to run free.
I do hope people know I have a very dark sense of humor :lol:


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29 Apr 2013, 7:06 pm

Misslizard wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I think this thread started as a way to be inappropriate and funny at the same time.
But I'll take a psycho over a convicted molester any day.
Mental illness I get,sex with kids I don't.


But psychos are serial killers and have no qualms cutting you into pieces and eating you.


How often does that happen compared to a child being molested?
Let the serial killers feast on the CONVICTED molesters.I bet they would taste bad,ugh.
A hippie on organic food would be tastier,but they are harmless folks,so they get to run free.
I do hope people know I have a very dark sense of humor :lol:



There you go.

Have a fenced off game preserve.

Release the convicted child molestors into the preserve.

Then release the serial killers. Let the serial killer hunt down and kill the child molesters.

And film it all and put it on pay for view cable as a reality show!



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30 Apr 2013, 10:51 pm

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If you have friends who are pedophiles, then you might want to reconsider who you associate yourself with.


I'm a pedophile. I didn't ask to be one, it's just my sexual orientation. It's not something I would choose or think of acting upon. If you think you know me because of that then I feel sorry for you.

I know why the word makes you angry but try to use your brain and not be so judgmental. Pedophiles exist whether you hate them or not, they will just exist in secret where they can't be avoided. You probably have friends who are pedophiles too, you just don't know it because they don't tell anyone.

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It can be argued that even with a computer generated image of a child as a sexual object, the pedophile would eventually want to experience the real thing.


I'm pretty sure wanting to "experience the real thing" is part of what defines a pedophile. They already want that.

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No, no. My point was, photographs of women weren't enough for me after a time, and I had wanted the real thing. I'm saying it would only be a matter of time till pedophiles want more than just a computerized image of a child.


So what you are saying is that if all women had turned you down you would have ended up raping someone? I'm sure there are some child molesters who started off viewing kiddie porn and worked up to do it for real, just like there are some murderers who play violent video games. John Hinckley Jr. shot President Reagan because he was obsessed with Jodie Foster in the movie Taxi Driver. There are those susceptible people out there, and there is no telling what might set them off. No one can deny that it might happen the way you say.

But the urge for sex is always there, it comes from hormones not from imagery. There is evidence that giving people another outlet for their craving can curb rather than wet their appetite. Studies have shown that sexual crimes diminish in places that legalize adult pornography. I see no reason the same might not be true for child porn, other than the obvious problem that it does serious harm in the production.

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I will never understand why someone who finds themselves attracted to children wouldn't immediately seek prevention therapy.

How would I do this? There is no easy way for a person with mental health issues to get help unless they can afford a $200/hour psychiatrist. There is no Pedophiles Anonymous because people like PsychoSarah make it inadvisable to tell anyone about it. The guy who shot up Virginia Tech and the guy who shot up Sandy Hook could have used some help too. But when Oprah does her tragic episode on the horrors of pedophilia she never once mentions how to seek help if you are one and try to prevent the problem. Help just isn't there.



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30 Apr 2013, 11:57 pm

If I came across as offensive, I had not meant to. I think it's very brave that you came forward and identified yourself.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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01 May 2013, 3:34 am

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PsychoSarah wrote:
If you have friends who are pedophiles, then you might want to reconsider who you associate yourself with.


I'm a pedophile. I didn't ask to be one, it's just my sexual orientation. It's not something I would choose or think of acting upon. If you think you know me because of that then I feel sorry for you.

I know why the word makes you angry but try to use your brain and not be so judgmental. Pedophiles exist whether you hate them or not, they will just exist in secret where they can't be avoided. You probably have friends who are pedophiles too, you just don't know it because they don't tell anyone.

Kraichgauer wrote:
It can be argued that even with a computer generated image of a child as a sexual object, the pedophile would eventually want to experience the real thing.


I'm pretty sure wanting to "experience the real thing" is part of what defines a pedophile. They already want that.

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No, no. My point was, photographs of women weren't enough for me after a time, and I had wanted the real thing. I'm saying it would only be a matter of time till pedophiles want more than just a computerized image of a child.


So what you are saying is that if all women had turned you down you would have ended up raping someone? I'm sure there are some child molesters who started off viewing kiddie porn and worked up to do it for real, just like there are some murderers who play violent video games. John Hinckley Jr. shot President Reagan because he was obsessed with Jodie Foster in the movie Taxi Driver. There are those susceptible people out there, and there is no telling what might set them off. No one can deny that it might happen the way you say.

But the urge for sex is always there, it comes from hormones not from imagery. There is evidence that giving people another outlet for their craving can curb rather than wet their appetite. Studies have shown that sexual crimes diminish in places that legalize adult pornography. I see no reason the same might not be true for child porn, other than the obvious problem that it does serious harm in the production.

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I will never understand why someone who finds themselves attracted to children wouldn't immediately seek prevention therapy.

How would I do this? There is no easy way for a person with mental health issues to get help unless they can afford a $200/hour psychiatrist. There is no Pedophiles Anonymous because people like PsychoSarah make it inadvisable to tell anyone about it. The guy who shot up Virginia Tech and the guy who shot up Sandy Hook could have used some help too. But when Oprah does her tragic episode on the horrors of pedophilia she never once mentions how to seek help if you are one and try to prevent the problem. Help just isn't there.


Ok thank you for answering, and for explaining that there are people who can control their impulses and not harm children.
I didn't realise there is no accessible help available.
If you know of anything that needs signatures or lobbying to provide that support, I would gladly help.



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01 May 2013, 10:20 am

Recently a friend in a rather drunken state admitted to me that he was attracted to kids 8O,I think he just wanted to be honest for once with someone.But that he had never acted on it because he knew it was wrong.So I get that some have a lot of self control.But once they hurt a child I have no compassion.especially for those that rape very small children or babies.
I have known this individual for 15 years or so and never suspected.When my kids were teenagers they went hiking with him a lot,he never once harmed them.They are friends to this day.But to be truthful,if I had known then, I would never have let them around him.
So I wish there was treatment and help,support for everyone dealing with their demons.

I think everyone wants to have a non judgmental ear that will listen,keep your secret,and still value you as a human.


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01 May 2013, 2:53 pm

MCalavera wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
I think this thread started as a way to be inappropriate and funny at the same time.
But I'll take a psycho over a convicted molester any day.
Mental illness I get,sex with kids I don't.


But psychos are serial killers and have no qualms cutting you into pieces and eating you.


Note the fact that I call myself Psycho Sarah because NTs called me crazy on practically a daily basis, so I decided to make fun of the insult. And it is catchy. Misunderstood, yes. Psycho, probably not. Probably :twisted:



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02 May 2013, 4:54 am

Legalize public intoxication, getting high in public and having sex in public? Hehe


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02 May 2013, 8:16 am

^^^^If I catch two people going at it on my lawn I'll spray them with a water hose. :lol:
I don't want to set on a park bench that has someone's jizz on it,ewww.And people litter,they would leave used condoms all over the place.


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02 May 2013, 2:45 pm

This is disgusting and disturbing! :eew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=deo ... =endscreen


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02 May 2013, 3:03 pm

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^^^^If I catch two people going at it on my lawn I'll spray them with a water hose. :lol:
I don't want to set on a park bench that has someone's jizz on it,ewww.And people litter,they would leave used condoms all over the place.


Once, a condom and a very large pair of underwear were found on the elementary school playground. Sickens me.