Should bare human female mammary areolae be legal in public?

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Should bare female mammary areolae be legal in public?
I'm female, and I say No Way! Never! 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
I'm female, and I say only when breastfeeding a child 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
I'm female, and I say only when the breasts contain political slogans 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I'm female, and I say only when breastfeeding or making a political statement 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
I'm female, and I say only when the breasts are nubile 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I'm female, and I oppose restrictions on public display of areolae 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
I'm male, and I say No Way! Never! 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I'm male, and I say only when breastfeeding a child 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
I'm male, and I say only when the breasts contain political slogans 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I'm male, and I say only when breastfeeding or making a political 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I'm male, and I say only when the breasts are nubile 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I'm male, and I oppose restrictions on public display of areolae 50%  50%  [ 17 ]
Total votes : 34

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12 Jun 2013, 10:15 pm

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My prediction was correct: women, as a group, are much more bothered by their anatomy than the gents.

I wonder why that is?


Probably for the same reason we gents are oddly curious about the size of our fellow male's genitalia? Men are always surveyed as feeling constantly inadequate as to the size of their non-John-Holmes sized penises, why wouldn't women feel self-conscious as to their breasts, since they've been taught that size matters?

Also, women are never good enough. TV, magazines, porn, all create this fantastic idea of what a woman should be, and no woman can attain it. Yeah, think of the hottest porn starlet you can think of. They airbrush that. Actresses too. Women feel inadequate because they "should" look like a barbie doll, but they actually look like... a human. Just like we men think we need a good 16" or something to satisfy a woman, thanks to porn.

Personally I think it's a shame, because women are %&$*ing hot. That includes cellulite, wrinkles and all.



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12 Jun 2013, 10:32 pm

Barbie dolls can’t even stand upright—their mass distribution is too messed up :)

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13 Jun 2013, 6:19 am

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You were most likely weaned too soon and are now jealous of infants getting what you were denied.


No, I was not, and I remember breast feeding.

I just don't care to watch someone doing it...especially if I'm trying to eat. I think a breastfeeding mother needs to consider her surroundings and be considerate of other people's sensibilities.


I was sitting in a restaurant in Houston one day and happened to notice that a woman about 25 feet away from me was breastfeeding her baby. Other than being a little surprised, it was really no big deal.

I was also at a soccer game once when the woman in front of me breastfed her baby. Again, it was no big deal.



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13 Jun 2013, 6:43 am

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I was also at a soccer game once when the woman in front of me breastfed her baby. Again, it was no big deal.

How did she clap her hands and hold her baby at the same time?



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13 Jun 2013, 6:43 am

eric76 wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
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You were most likely weaned too soon and are now jealous of infants getting what you were denied.


No, I was not, and I remember breast feeding.

I just don't care to watch someone doing it...especially if I'm trying to eat. I think a breastfeeding mother needs to consider her surroundings and be considerate of other people's sensibilities.


I was sitting in a restaurant in Houston one day and happened to notice that a woman about 25 feet away from me was breastfeeding her baby. Other than being a little surprised, it was really no big deal.

I was also at a soccer game once when the woman in front of me breastfed her baby. Again, it was no big deal.


A woman needs to take care of her child, and to Hell with other people's "sensibilities" (I think that "sensitivities" was the word being sought?). Anyone who doesn't want to see it can just look the other way.

It's not like she is smoking a cigarette and you have to smell it.



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13 Jun 2013, 7:05 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
eric76 wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
You were most likely weaned too soon and are now jealous of infants getting what you were denied.


No, I was not, and I remember breast feeding.

I just don't care to watch someone doing it...especially if I'm trying to eat. I think a breastfeeding mother needs to consider her surroundings and be considerate of other people's sensibilities.


I was sitting in a restaurant in Houston one day and happened to notice that a woman about 25 feet away from me was breastfeeding her baby. Other than being a little surprised, it was really no big deal.

I was also at a soccer game once when the woman in front of me breastfed her baby. Again, it was no big deal.


A woman needs to take care of her child, and to Hell with other people's "sensibilities" (I think that "sensitivities" was the word being sought?). Anyone who doesn't want to see it can just look the other way.

It's not like she is smoking a cigarette and you have to smell it.


I fully agree.

The woman breastfeeding at the restaurant was there with her husband and a couple of kids. The one at the soccer game was there with another woman, both of whom were former college athletes and quite fit.



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13 Jun 2013, 7:28 am

fueledbycoffee wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
My prediction was correct: women, as a group, are much more bothered by their anatomy than the gents.

I wonder why that is?


Probably for the same reason we gents are oddly curious about the size of our fellow male's genitalia? Men are always surveyed as feeling constantly inadequate as to the size of their non-John-Holmes sized penises, why wouldn't women feel self-conscious as to their breasts, since they've been taught that size matters?


In the locker room, we walk around completely naked with our peters dangling about. In the women's locker room, from what I've been told, women even continue to wear their brassieres and don't allow other women to see their nipples.

I don't know. It would take some conflated reasoning to try to blame this one on the Patriarchy. Which would explain why ladies aren't participating much in the discussion.



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13 Jun 2013, 8:20 am

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I don't know. It would take some conflated reasoning to try to blame this one on the Patriarchy. Which would explain why ladies aren't participating much in the discussion.


Who's blaming it on the patriarchy? I'm blaming it on our own neurosis, exacerbated by marketing.

As for rocking out with our *%&*s out... The same disorder presents differently in different cases. Sure, we wander about naked in the locker room. We also get very nervous about what our girlfriend thinks, and an entire industry has built up around making your penis bigger. Men who think they have a small penis in locker room situations will actually tend to walk around with underwear or a towel more than men who think they have an average or larger penis. I've seen it in action. Men have also been known to pad their package much like women do their breasts. We are no different. We just behave slightly differently about it. Men are inclined to flaunt it if they got it. Although, I've never been in a Women's Locker Room, but I'd be willing to guess that a woman with big, perky breasts is more inclined to show off than someone with "lesser breasts".



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13 Jun 2013, 9:31 am

In another discussion, I posted this picture

[img][800:368]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wNJtF1XNe8Y/S9WdUC-mZKI/AAAAAAAAB80/DJ2BF0V85lk/s1600/coloured+souls.png[/img]

to demonstrate hue-variation among South Africa's Coloureds. No-one complained at all about the exposed nipples.

Imagine the outcry if this picture had featured South African women instead of men. Outraged women would be swooning and fainting. The site moderators would beat me to a bloody pulp, and I would never be heard from again.

But, if the polling is accurate, most men wouldn't be bothered at all by it. Some might even enjoy it.

This strikes me as representing the possible fact that women, with some exceptions (a few did vote with us on this), are hyper-sexist against themselves.

Feminists like to rag on about how they are mistreated by sexist men and patriarchs. Most of their problems may actually stem from what they do unto themselves and unto each other.



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13 Jun 2013, 9:40 am

Just about every topic you come up with (or bring up within topics) has to do with something sexual. This is getting really creepy.



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13 Jun 2013, 9:44 am

I think there’d be some outraged priests, too, furiously claiming children have to be protected from those dreadful things that used to nurse them.


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13 Jun 2013, 10:23 am

AceOfSpades wrote:
Just about every topic you come up with (or bring up within topics) has to do with something sexual. This is getting really creepy.


Mammary areolae don't have to be regarded as sexual, whether they are male or female. In fact, we're not really talking about anything sexual at all, as the mammary areolae are not involved in the coital process. Breastfeeding a baby isn't sexual, or else the mother would be arrested for sex with a minor.

The "sexual" aspect doesn't exist outside of your own mind. There is nothing at all objectively "creepy" about mammary areolae.

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Hamlet: A goodly one; in which there are many confines, wards, and dungeons, Denmark being one o' th' worst.

Rosencrantz: We think not so, my lord.

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13 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

I'm not noticing the nips on those dudes,what I'm noticing is they look like they need a good home cooked meal.I hope that's dietary supplements behind them,they look poorly.Been feedin' none to good.


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13 Jun 2013, 1:08 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
There is nothing at all objectively "creepy" about mammary areolae.


That's not so.

Just as a comedian said, "Lycra was intended for thin, sexy people."

Some breasts are attractive. Others can give you the willies.

Back hair shouldn't be creepy, but when I saw a guy whose back hair was so long you could French Braid it, I wanted to run in terror.



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13 Jun 2013, 4:44 pm

Interesting Facebook policies

http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/f ... 10574.html

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After a storm of controversy, Facebook officially changed its policy on the posting of mastectomy photos, making it clear on Wednesday that they are now permitted. ....

...Another woman whose mastectomy photo has appeared on Facebook, Inga Duncan Thornell, told Yahoo! Shine, “Technically, yes, these are not breasts, so as far as censorship goes, this is [a victory].”

...Facebook does have an official policy allowing “the vast majority” of breastfeeding photos, because “we agree that breastfeeding is natural and beautiful and we're glad to know that it's important for mothers to share their experiences with others on Facebook.” Still, the policy is a bit murky because, it continues, “Photos that show a fully exposed breast where the child is not actively engaged in nursing do violate the Facebook Terms.” A Facebook page called "Hey Facebook, Breastfeeding Is Not Obscene" regularly takes the site to task on the issue.


So, at the very least, we should all agree that women who have had mastectomies should be permitted to go about topless, because there are no longer any nipples or areolae to offend anyone.



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13 Jun 2013, 5:18 pm

I think a largge part has to do wth women in westrnn societies and othres that are highly criticall of sex seem usualy taught at yuong age that they haev to be modest and sexuly "pious" (becuse if they aernt, they may be considred a whore or a slut), and so thir more reactioinry to anythng sexual than men are, who dont have that emphasised as much to them.


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