Trans activists really need to lighten up
From the article...
What a nice man. And what a sagacious affectation of his perspicacious sapience in the gamut of aesculapian erudition...
... If it's all made up, then why is there such a ridiculously high suicide rate among transgender individuals?
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you can always rely on good old cis-gendered pundits to tell the trans community whats good for them. Salt of the earth, they really are.
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Exactly. When you piss off chauvinist a***holes it should be a green flag for the TG community to up the ante, not to concede ground.
I don't understand why some people get sex change operations. I'm not gay, but it doesn't seem to me like it'd be worth it for someone to have their dick cut off just so they could have vaginal sex with their boyfriend. They could just have anal instead, and not need to have their body surgically altered. Or if it's two females, they could just scissor each other. Sex change operations don't really make people anymore stylish either. They shouldn't be showing their genitals to that many people. I guess people would still notice if they had breasts or not though. But someone could still get breasts or have their breasts removed without having their sex organs altered. Then again, some people might think it's kind of weird if they notice that some person, who they think is a girl, has a boner, or feels a lot of pain when they're kicked in the crotch. Maybe they should have it removed anyways, just in case.
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Yes, that would be a consequence of being born into a body that is appropriate to your psychological gender.
Being gay and being transgenderal are two completely different things.
Being gay and being transgenderal are two completely different things.
Yes, but most people who aren't gay or bisexual wouldn't have much a reason to get a sex change operation. The only reason a straight person might want one would be so that they could get horny by looking at or playing with their own genitals. I guess, if they're flexible, they could also enjoy having oral sex with themselves. But I can't think of very many other reasons why a straight person would want a sex change operation.
I think his point is that they are often deeply, deeply conflicted and unhappy inidividuals anyway, and perhaps the transgender issue masks something much more fundamental within them.
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Being gay and being transgenderal are two completely different things.
Yes, but most people who aren't gay or bisexual wouldn't have much a reason to get a sex change operation. The only reason a straight person might want one would be so that they could get horny by looking at or playing with their own genitals.
again, psychological gender and sexual orientation are two completely different entities. A 'straight' (dislike the use of this word in this context) person might want a sex change not because they identify as a straight member of their birth sex but as heterosexual or bisexual member of the opposite sex. A regular tendency within the TG community is that they feel repulsed while being intimate with members of their birth gender while in their 'cis-guise' but are completely fine with being intimate with members of their birth gender post transition. A lot of it to do is the feeling of their birth genitals as a reminder, and feeling repulsed by it.
Image if you will, you woke up tomorrow, in the body of the opposite sex against your wishes with all of the genderal traits and desires of your original sex intact. The feelings of physical alienation would be precisely analogous to what TG people experience every day.
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I think his point is that they are often deeply, deeply conflicted and unhappy individuals anyway, and perhaps the transgender issue masks something much more fundamental within them.
Transsexualism/Gender Dysphoria (depending on if you are using the ICD or the DSM) has a significant biological basis. It *is* fundamental.
I have kind of a hard time understanding that, since I'm about moderately asexual leaning towards heterosexual, and I'm kind of androgynous in a lot of ways. I imagine that if I did somehow wake up one morning as a female with female sex organs, I could probably retrain my brain to be sexually attracted to males, though I probably wouldn't want to, because I prefer to be asexual. I don't think I'd really be any more or less happy as a female than as a male, but since I've been a male my whole life, it would seem kind of weird if I just somehow just changed genders overnight.
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I have kind of a hard time understanding that, since I'm about moderately asexual leaning towards heterosexual, and I'm kind of androgynous in a lot of ways. I imagine that if I did somehow wake up one morning as a female with female sex organs, I could probably retrain my brain to be sexually attracted to males, though I probably wouldn't want to, because I prefer to be asexual. I don't think I'd really be any more or less happy as a female than as a male, but since I've been a male my whole life, it would seem kind of weird if I just somehow just changed genders overnight.
Yeah, stop trying to change the narrative of the question to obfuscate my point.
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Just ignore them.
ignorance breeds agitation.
No, paying attention to people who try to make their problems mine "breeds agitation".
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