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zacb
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01 Feb 2014, 6:52 pm

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What ideologies and policies must an individual or movement possess to be considered and accepted as socialist?


The needs of the collective outweigh the needs of the one or the few.

Socialism is the contrary of individualism.

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Not per se. What about Mutualist or similar individualist/socialist anarchism? I would say those that believe in collective action through some central governance body. Most of the time this means state socialism, which means to redistribute the wealth.



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01 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm

zacb wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Arran wrote:
What ideologies and policies must an individual or movement possess to be considered and accepted as socialist?


The needs of the collective outweigh the needs of the one or the few.

Socialism is the contrary of individualism.

ruveyn


Not per se. What about Mutualist or similar individualist/socialist anarchism? I would say those that believe in collective action through some central governance body. Most of the time this means state socialism, which means to redistribute the wealth.


I would argue that capitalism is if anything, anemic to individualism because it reduces individuals to a mere group of consumers whose lifestyle choices are dictated by popular trends enforced by social stigma and peer pressure.


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01 Feb 2014, 11:04 pm

thomas81 wrote:
zacb wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Arran wrote:
What ideologies and policies must an individual or movement possess to be considered and accepted as socialist?


The needs of the collective outweigh the needs of the one or the few.

Socialism is the contrary of individualism.

ruveyn


Not per se. What about Mutualist or similar individualist/socialist anarchism? I would say those that believe in collective action through some central governance body. Most of the time this means state socialism, which means to redistribute the wealth.


I would argue that capitalism is if anything, anemic to individualism because it reduces individuals to a mere group of consumers whose lifestyle choices are dictated by popular trends enforced by social stigma and peer pressure.

That is consumerism, not capitalism.



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09 Feb 2014, 1:43 pm

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If you compare the BBC to the likes of ITN and Sky, which are the broadcasting equivalent of gutter press red top papers its fairly evident to see why the BBC is needed.


That's a weak comparison. I think that Press TV mounted a much stronger counterbalance to the likes of ITN, Sky, and Fox News which is why it got kicked off many satellites.

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Moreover its a important cultural icon and has been engrained into the tapestry of British tradition that kept us informed during our darkest hours. It should remain.


The BBC as a cultural icon is the strongest in the minds of older white British people who remember it as Auntie Beeb in the days when there was fewer than 4 TV channels. It is weakest in the minds of younger people of foreign backgrounds who have only ever lived in a world with many TV channels and the internet. A high proportion of them rarely watch BBC TV channels or listen to BBC radio as they overwhelmingly prefer their own cultural and religious satellite channels, and begrudge having to pay money to a broadcaster that is of little interest to them. What I find ironic is the way that the 'left' play the game of sticking up for immigrants and foreigners but often fail to understand their everyday interests and desires. If people of foreign origin are generally happy with their own satellite TV channels and rarely watch BBC channels then they see little point in defending the continuation of the BBC and the TV licence.



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09 Feb 2014, 2:59 pm

Bataar wrote:
thomas81 wrote:
zacb wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Arran wrote:
What ideologies and policies must an individual or movement possess to be considered and accepted as socialist?


The needs of the collective outweigh the needs of the one or the few.

Socialism is the contrary of individualism.

ruveyn


Not per se. What about Mutualist or similar individualist/socialist anarchism? I would say those that believe in collective action through some central governance body. Most of the time this means state socialism, which means to redistribute the wealth.


I would argue that capitalism is if anything, anemic to individualism because it reduces individuals to a mere group of consumers whose lifestyle choices are dictated by popular trends enforced by social stigma and peer pressure.

That is consumerism, not capitalism.


consumerism is the inevitable by product of capitalism especially when left unchecked.


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