Is Western Socialism - Always National Socialism ?

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13 Jan 2014, 6:30 pm

The manifestos of these parties are somewhat irrelevant on the issue of internationalism vs. nationalism.

There reality is there is a mix of views. Especially during an economic recession, you are going to get more insular views, regardless of party affiliation.



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13 Jan 2014, 6:36 pm

thomas81 wrote:
LoveNotHate wrote:

Would the room go silent ? Do Western socialist really want to share their wealth with poorer people in poorer non-Western nations ?

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If the worlds wealth was truly redistributed (in the way that Marx advocated) everyone except the international ruling class would be better off.


People came to marx and asked him when the revolution was coming, he always brushed the off an made excuses about not being the opportune time. Same time he sent his kid to private school, and hung out with the bourgeois elite.



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13 Jan 2014, 6:41 pm

Arran wrote:
Most socialist / far left organisations in Britain are internationalist as they follow the ideology of Karl Marx despite globalisation and offshoring being detrimental to the employment prospects and living standards of the poor and lower classes.


I would go that far.


The Labour party used to be against the EU for example, and the Conservative party were for it.

Most of the Unions, were mostly for their own people, not for international workers.