Obama Putin - The United Soviet States of America

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Do you agree with the title, or does it make you angry?
consider this a place to discuss a brotherhood between Russia and The United States. We don't need a cold war do we?

I'm the source of anger, not one who suffers from it.
I'd like a good old fashioned cold war.

We don't need a new cold war, but we don't have to like what they do either. Russia is an oligarchy, not something one should try to emulate or tolerate.

I like this arrangement:

They give us vodka, we give them whiskey. Everyone can sing show-tunes together.

When I assess whether I want to invest my time long term in a particular news outlet, one of the things I consider is whether the content is going to help me. If the news outlet frames things in terms of why I should hate, or be angered by something, instead of helping me to understand it without such biases, then I do not invest a lot of my time in that outlet. Fear, anger and hatred limit my ability to rationally assess data.

The media that we consume can help to inculcate a variety of cognitive patterns, and if your emphasis is on whether one feels angry about something, it suggests that your media input might be encouraging you to think in unproductive ways.

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What about his question instantly implied that it had to do with a media outlet. No offense but this seems like a thinly veiled attack on your part; of course I may very well be wrong and I invite you to correct me. Asking people if the idea of a soviet america angers us has nothing to do with media outlets. It has to do with whether or not that proposition irritates us.

So... Should America suck up to Russia and become like it? Let's see... Between our track record and their track record I think it's clear who's had more performance issues. So they should emulate us, not the other way around.

What do you mean by us?

I mean America as a nation. Yes, we aren't the greatest exemplars, but some of the last countries we should emulate are countries like Russia. Their policies are still draconian, especially their immigration policies.

It makes me confused. Neither Obama nor Putin are socialists. Obama is center-left at best, and Putin is a right-wing nationalist. You do realize that the USSR hasn't been around for awhile, right? And you realize that The Russian Federation isn't a Communist entity, right? And you also realize that the real world doesn't work like the Civilization games, right? You don't just "form an alliance" and you get to move your little mans around in their territory.

A cold war with Russia, not USSR. The title was a play on words.
It already shows how people feel about it.
The best response I got was form Raptor, who voted for another cold war, when I voted for brotherhood.
It seems to me people care too much about politics than to let go and become tight knit.

Should we NOT ONLY stop bickering with them- should we actually marry them, and form one country?

Is that the question?

Seems like an inane idea.

Also -if we did it wouldnt be "the united SOVIET states of America" because the Soviet Union doesnt exist anymore. Russia is no longer "Soviet".

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No, I mean like having a relationship like we do with Japan.
Imports, exports, everything!

Ok how about The Federation of Russia and America?

But still, it was only about a strong bond.

I chose the second option. Besides the tension existing between both countries, Russia still has domestic policies and practices that are abhorrent to most Americans. In order to keep the peace beyond one based on fear and the maneuvering of allies against one another in petty bush wars that were so common in the cold war, I think some sort of friendship should exist just to keep a real peace alive. Even if we and the Russians do hold one another at arms length.

Google "Realpolitik".

It's China that America is going to be in line with, not Russia.