I can't tell bad actors from good actors in movies

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ZanneMarie
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03 Mar 2007, 11:40 am

They learn the physical characteristics of emotion. How a face looks when the person is sad, when a tear falls to look most effective and physically how NTs bodies show different emotions and feelings. Film is about showing everything, so you can really break emotion down into its physical manifestations which is something an Aspie can understand and master. It's still acting, which is what we'd be doing in real life anyway. It's just cognizant acting without the social pressure to understand the other person.



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03 Mar 2007, 11:41 am

Like whoever this person is


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03 Mar 2007, 12:37 pm

paulsinnerchild wrote:
I find it so difficult to read the actors's emotions, my ability of telling a bad actor apart from a good actor are really hard when I am watching a movie, so bad acting really has never bothered me like it bothers most people. Even today I really bad at judging acting skills. I may have seen a movie and told everyone “that was a great movie I saw last night” and everyone replied “yeah, but the acting was dreadful (and other words I dare not mention), that so and so can’t act and go on… ”. I would just have to their word for it because I would have absolutely no idea. That may be good in my eyes, because if you are totally blind to bad acting that would make some movies that look really lousy in most people’s eyes look terrific in mine.


I look at it this way: if the actor made me think they were the person they were portraying, then they are a good actor. If I was watching and thinking that it was an actor I was watching, they're a bad actor. :)

PS I spent years, when I was younger, going to movies to watch the faces. The first time through a movie I'd go to enjoy the story. I'd go several more times, if it was a tolerably entertaining movie, and watch the actors' faces, language, body movements, etc., and then watch the audience and the other characters for their reactions. Sort of a crash course in interpersonal communication for an aspie, with popcorn, as it were. I think it helped a whole lot.



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03 Mar 2007, 12:49 pm

KurtmanJP wrote:
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I've read that introverts/aspies would have an acting advantage. They have acted their whole life, no training.


But what about the parts where they have to show intense emotion in a flick?



Hey, a lot of the actors go to classes for years to learn how to act. I used to work for an acting training program as clerical staff and I can tell you that actors spend hours and hours learning how to do everything from breathing to walking a certain way to emoting.

It was never dull there. The first week I worked at the place I had to go get stuff out of a basement storage closet. I was in there sorting through piles of dusty old paperwork when I heard the most blood-curdling woman's screams, with "no, no, let me go helphelphelp" through the wall and almost had a coronary - threw the files in the air and ran for the phone to call 911.

Acting class rehearsal. Color ME embarassed.

Then, there was the time that a dozen clowns invaded my office as a group one after noon. Greasepaint, silly string, they were running amok in the building. Standing on the desk doing Tarzan yells, doing Groucho Marx immitations, "pantsing" each other. (Yes, a physical comedy class.)

And there were semi-violent "arguments" in the hallways, that would stop in the middle with a "Hi, howya doin?" when I'd pass.

I loved that place. It was like living in a lunatic asylum, but they were some of the most creative, accepting, fun people I've ever been around.



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03 Mar 2007, 12:53 pm

I thought it was the other way around because fooling people is the way to go.

It makes these average people think they are impressed with the actor's work.

I can't think of any good examples off hand, but I hope you all understand my point.


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04 Mar 2007, 12:19 am

One of the few instances I noticed "bad acting" was on the news, when a mother alleged an intruder broke into her house and drowned her kids in the bathtub. She did her amateur best to look as grief stricken as possible, but I didn't even buy it because for all that screaming I did not see a single tear drop dribble down her cheeks. I was then either suspicious that either she had either badly blocked tear ducts or there was no intruder at all she drowned the kids.
She was later charged and convicted for murder.
But for me to notice bad acting they would usually have the be rank amatuers like that woman, with no acting training at all to speak of.



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04 Mar 2007, 10:25 am

Unbelievable!


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05 Mar 2007, 8:55 pm

wow haha this applies to me.for example i thought keanu reeves was a GREAT actor but apparently to most people he sucks at acting.



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05 Mar 2007, 9:00 pm

What?

Is it the subject matter we're discussing at the present?


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05 Mar 2007, 9:18 pm

I sometimes can't tell bad actors from good ones unless someone tells me. I've gotten tons better with telling which are good and which are bad, however, so that's a good thing; it's just something that people just get better at over time in my opinion. I'd say that cheesy actors and actresses are ones that act like they're in a soap opera (like their facial expressions are overly dramatic and their voices don't sound as if they mean any of what they say at all). Good actors and actresses tend to act like the things that are happening to them in the movie are real life, like their facial expressions aren't nearly as drawn out and they talk like things are actually happening to them in real life. If they sound like they are talking from a script instead of an improvised script with guidelines (like jazz for example), you know that they need some practice. Anyways, I hope this helps; I don't know how to explain it perfectly, but those are the basics according to me about understanding good and bad actors and actresses.


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05 Mar 2007, 9:21 pm

In other words, their content has to be original.


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05 Mar 2007, 11:50 pm

I thought that Michael Jordan was decent in Space Jam, but everyone else thought he sucked. However, the majority of us agree that Dakota Fanning is excellent. Just a few jealous people don't think so. Her little sister, Elle, is also fairly good, but not as good as her big sister.



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06 Mar 2007, 12:13 am

I just thought of this.

Al Roker is guest-hosting the syndicated version of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" this week, and he sounds like he is acting. He is no Meredith Vieira. Nothing against him, but I think the next person to guest-host (Tom Bergeron of "Dancing with the Stars)" would be much better than Al if Meredith had to be replaced. For those of you who don't know, Meredith is too busy with the "Today Show" here, so they have tapped two guest hosts to chime in for her while she takes a much-needed rest. Al this week, and Tom next week.

As I said, Tom would be better than Al because he is a lot more composed. However, I am not changing the channel when Al is hosting because I am a big fan of "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" and game shows in general.


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06 Mar 2007, 3:53 pm

Acting is a possible career for Aspies, we act in all social situations and if you get good at it you can do if for money. Also, parents often send children to acting classes if they are not socialising properly. Or undiagnosed Aspie adults will go to acting classes to improve their social skills. Acting classes are good alternative if you don’t have a dedicated social skills class available.

As a child, my parents sent me children’s acting classes to “improve my confidence, because I didn’t mix properly”. I enjoyed the classes, but they moved from the room they normally met in, so I refused to go anymore.

Suspect several possible Aspie actors but my best candidate is Klaus Kinski:

Have a look at his youtube clip, having a melt down. He would argue like this for 3 hours! I was talking to a German friend, who is from the same city as Klaus Kinski. He told me that people used to go to Kinski’s poetry recitals to laugh at him. Kinski never understood that people were there to laugh at him. His poetry recitals started off ok but always descended into an argument, with Kinski screaming at the audience. One time when Kinski got angry he trashed his bathroom to dust, he emerged a full day later after the police kicked down the door, you could sieve the ex-bathroom through a tennis racket! Ok not all Aspies have problems with rage, I don't, I’m too calm. But that Kinski’s anger would occur over very minor problems, in this clip, he is I think, complaining about the food.

He was an outright egomaniac - in the words of Werner Herzog (film director)

I’m sure there are many more actors who are Aspies, but because they are such good actors they are hard to spot.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yITx7txr-7M[/youtube] -Klaus Kinski going nuts



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06 Mar 2007, 5:48 pm

Al Roker kept yelling when someone won $300 on "Millionaire."

Imagine what it would be like if he witnessed someone winning $1,000,000!


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