a list of enemies of the autistic community

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I have seen some with HFA say that severe autism with ID "doesn't count" as autism and that their ID is separate. This is not correct. The problem is the severe autism inhibits learning as the sensory overload is too much to deal with which does make the ID a result of the autism.

I resent that you have chosen to ignore where I have made a distinction between HFA and severe autism.

Ah the "curebies". There are some forms of autism that are so severe that the condition creates genuine and extreme suffering. I see nothing wrong with wanting to alleviate this and when autism is that severe it is not merely a neurological "divergence" as you suggest. I DO see something immoral when people actively campaign against treatments for severe autism.


I wouldn't expect you to accept a cure.. but I wouldn't agree you have a right to deny it's availability to others or advocate for it not to be researched. Some people may truly need it and I think it's unfair that real treatments may be denied because people want to treat it like a club.

You say this:

But then you also say.



This is putting all forms of autism under the umbrella of disability, which is unhelpful and inaccurate.




That's still debatable. It might be true, but then again it might not be.

As for the rest of your argument, I do agree with you. If the autistic individual feels that some elements of their autism causes them to suffer, then of course they should seek treatment if they feel is necessary. I wouldn't want any research to be stopped. I feel that that a lot of "treatments" for people on the spectrum is to make the person more agreeable for neurotypicals, rather than improving the well-being of the autistic person.

I view an enemy of the autistic community as a person(s), autistic or NT, that makes it a part of their personality to act superior and/or put others down by making condescending remarks. These people often come across as an individual who seems to be isolated from the rest of the community, but is not hesitant to infuse disrespectful comments that don't quite cross the line of the rules of that community.

Can that be extended to include a handful of chronic nitpickers whose apparent mission here is to demonstrate that nitpicking automatically makes them smarter than their targets? The nitpicks tend to poison the wells of otherwise interesting and intelligent debates.

Yes, I definitely agree with that.

I think this article on nitpickers makes some realistic points:

http://thehathorlegacy.com/activism-101-the-nitpickers/

Hey, as a Let's Player I take offense to that.

I believe the education system itself is probably the biggest opponent of the autistic community. It constantly propagates the image on an extroverted neurotypical person, and if you're an autistic person in middle and high school, then good luck. The kind of s**t that goes on in a typical school is living hell for an aspie. I can't imagine how many aspies have been screwed over by the education system. Worse, the "help" is more or less meant on integrating us into a system we hate.

Unlike Autism SpeaKKKs which mostly does hate speeches, the education system actually does bodily and psychological harm, and promotes the stigma even more directly with ghettoization.

I thought this must be a troll/joke website but there really are lots of people like this?! I am so angry I'd actually condone someone ruining their lives/bank accounts (Wish I had the tech knowledge!).

Or someone should get started raping them all http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthre ... post921903 . After all, the bible said an eye for an eye

The potential danger of the exacerbation of the us vs them ideology clearly explained.

In one word.

Scary.

It really bums me out that they put their fictional churches location as Iowa. I live in Iowa.

Ok the witch trials the whole not being normal means you get executed was NOT carried out with religious intent, but instead by politicians using a twisted version of the bible to justify their rule and to suppress any revolutions against them.

I think I had already pointed out it was mostly done by secular authorities. And that the writer of the Witches Hammer was considered a nut case by his immediate church superiors. Additionally it is highly unlikely that his co-author actually helped write the book, or was even aware of the project to write it to begin with, since from what I have read in the introduction from translation of the book I own he was not even interested in witches.

But suppressing revolts, not really. And the political leaders of that time had no trouble prosecuting protestants/catholics without having to call them witches at top of that. That does not mean that the religious authorities of the other side where not demonized (like spreading the story that Luther has the devil as a father), but I do not remember them being called witches.

No it was more part of the general heightened tension and unrest of the time leading to what can be called paranoia.

Why in hell's name are we still discussing Landover Baptist Church, a parody for heaven's sake? (No pun intended)