I left the Catholic Church because of Autism Speaks

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Even sticking it in his mouth is probably uncomfortable. In that way, it appears he showed more devotion to God than anyone in the sanctuary, including the priest.

I can't see Jesus denying him communion.

"But Jesus called the children to him and said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these." Luke 18:16

From the Vatican, I'd say silence is approval.

Feeling guilty because I've dropped the ball and I think it is getting too close to the event to pursue it; I had finally gotten all the info on a good person to rope in for activism and then I got busy elsewhere ... sorry

Is this the same conference?

http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2014/11/ ... ism/19856/

Pope Francis is a good man, I hope he does get through to people that would like nothing more than to push a button, and have Autism and Asperger's disappear. To make them see we're not a malady, and should be valued and seen as a positive.

Where can I read about what he said?

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/ ... ism-32815/


Moral of the story: Changing attitudes requires a bottom-up rather than a top-down approach.

How true that is. The inclusion message is positive. The disease stuff is regrettable, however we are going to continue to be faced with this until we take possession of "the message to the others" ourselves. That day seems to still be far in the future to me, though I look forward to being proved wrong on that.

I think the Riddle Scale is instructive here. The Riddle Scale describes different levels of respect/lack of respect for LGBTQ people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riddle_scale. It could be applied to autistics too.

The vatican seems to be at the "pity" level when it comes to autistics.

Here's the speech in full, have your sick bucket ready.

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2014/11 ... sm/1112005

With all the good pope Francis has done previously, this is just so hard to believe, that he would actually encourage eugenic elimination, and spread even more stigma.

^^^ Nowhere does he suggest that he encourages eugenic elimination. I know that you get there by assuming that D requires C, C requires B, and B requires A, but most people don't operate on those same assumptions. As I said before in this thread, the Pope will NEVER support abortion as a way of "preventing" ASD.

I know that none of us believe ASD can be "cured," but huge strides HAVE been made in the past decades improving the lives and outcomes for ASD children. My son has benefited greatly from many of them. Not all research is bad.

The words "sick", "pathology" 'heal", "prevent the onset" does a lot to undo the very acceptance and lessening of the stigma he is trying to accomplish. And only children were mentioned. Prayers are nice and appreciated, listening to us instead of Autism Speaks is what was needed, but that did not happen. I am not going to say the event was harmful, and that no good came out of the Pope speaking about eliminating the stigma, but a huge opportunity for a lot more was not taken advantage of and that hurts.

Proverbs 17:15