If there was an Autistic state would you migrate there?

Post Reply New Topic

If a country for ASD people was formed and without any animosity or ill wishes of any nearby peoples, would you migrate there?

Not unless my country had become economically or politically unsurvivable. It wouldn't be my home, would it?

Yes I would, I have fantasized about creating a state like that

Changelings of the world unite!

Just watch your Clarity carefully...

No. For one thing, I don't want to live in a social ghetto in which the only other people I meet are on the spectrum, despite being on it myself. Secondly, the idea sounds redolent of communism in many respects - wonderful in theory but doomed in practice.

A society of monologuers will not work.. and i am duly noted to have this common spectrum trait...

A workable society includes all minds of diverse ways of thinking to have any possibility to survive in the long run...

Additionally when any human innate freedoms of nature.. including reproductive freedoms are stunted by subjugation through illusory fears or oppressing or repressing human nature for whatever selfish gain is in mind... creativity and productivity suffers greatly as it takes the full colors of all of what human is for successful adaptation to the environment and continued survival.....

So no.. I'm not moving to a Muslim Country or state comprised of only one type of individual with one type of human variation out of an infinite variety of biodiversity inherent to all animals of nature...

On top of that as history shows on this website people identifying with Autism who have authoritarian control don't know what the F the difficulties of Autisms are.. like silly statements that people should be penalized for not reciprocating communication when they post a topic one time....

Nah.. i ain't going there for a home.. but i might just visit to see what goes on.. like i do here....

And at least now people can post a topic without reciprocating social communication and not be threatened as trolls.....

Autistic people need SO-called NT's to survive MORE than they need them for sure.. and this is a scientifically documented FACT..

BUT OF course the folks who could not spell JUST RIGHT.. do the grammar.. or talk concisely and totally correct would be ostracized there too.. in that exclusive Autism Club of country too....

If it is anything like my experience here...

But things are much much better now that the autistic girls with empathy are in CONTROL...

ALL in just my very educated and experienced opinion...

I TOTALLY DESPISE THE US VS THEM.. ideology as it reminds me of a way of country last century.. that wanted to exclude others with differences as well...

My 'KIND' OF AUTISM includes empathy for everyone from 70 and BELOW IQ'S to A holes...and no that comment is not personally directed at anyone in this discussion......

I don't buy this idea that we can't live without NTs. The only circumstances that we need NTs are to deal with conditions and narratives CREATED BY NTs. On our own, we would find a way to work things out, and what is more, do it better IMO.

What do you do with the NT offspring of autistic parents? Give them ABA?

This topic keeps coming up again and again. No-one does anything concrete though. I suggested an Autist phyle; very few people responded.

I would move there and reside in a city of Otakus. Also the county should have a close proximity to the ocean because I love the ocean!

This keeps popping up and is usually full of nebulous, utopic and very vague ideas, so much for "aspies are rational and pragmatic" myth

At least this one is one is short and to the point, but since you didn't elaborate on your vision, thomas, could you answer something that always remains unclear or turns Godwin-like in such discussions: what do you do with the NT spouses and kids?

How do you figure we'd 'do it better' last I checked autism doesn't make us super-humans that would do a better job of everything than a neurotypical. That just seems like a rather conceited statement.

No. A neurodiverse state is likely to function the best, especially since genetic diversity hedges against the materialization of some pretty abominable illnesses. Although many autism-related traits may be beneficial in small doses, when numerous traits pile on top of each other and there are multiple genes pushing toward the same impacts, it can be catastrophic.

Absolutely not! But not for the reasons most say.

I would not for the reason that an aspie society would obviously be an extreamly liberal/socialist society based on the viewpoints I see on this forum. I believe in a conservative, lassey-faire, free market, limited government society where taxes are low and personal freedom is high.

I am one of the few conservative autistics.

The US government is already very close to being a full progressive, socialist disaster.

Feel free to argue with me but that is my reason.

Forbes, a right-leaning business journal, ranks the top countries in the world for doing business. Why do I see so many socialist states at the top of that list?

Then again, the Nordic model is not conventionally socialist. Instead, the state acts as an intermediary between different groups, and their governments tend to be almost shockingly pro-business. In fact, under a center-right (for Scandinavia) "liberal-conservative" government, Denmark has one of the most relaxed employment-at-will systems in the world, thanks to a carefully crafted support-and-retraining system called "flexicurity."

On the other hand, it still pretty much defeats the idea that socialism and thriving business are mutually exclusive. Conversely, they seem to go hand-in-hand if you count the Nordic model.

When even a right-wing business journal is ranking one of the top ten most socialist countries in the world, Ireland, as the number one place in the world to do business, the argument against socialism seems to falter. Could it be that socialism not only gives us a better quality of life and cleaner air but also makes us rich? Amazing!

At the current time these countries are humming, but ten more years into the demographic transition they will not.

Their intitlement and social welfare programs are already pushing them into debt because the birth rate to support these programs monetarily is no longer high enough. Someone has to pay for these programs and that is currently China. But what happens I ask when China asks for their money or pulls the plug on loans?

Before Franklin Roosevelt and the new deal deficit spending was a no no unless in a wartime situation. Also, intitlement to the public was non existent and taxes were low.