If there was an Autistic state would you migrate there?

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Would you move to a state for ASD people?
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23 Dec 2014, 4:26 am

Independence for Catatonia! We want Cataton independence now!

I do think an Autist country could work, I just don't see the point. It wouldn't be entirely Autist anyway, not after people start having children, though Autists would remain in the majority.



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29 Dec 2014, 12:56 am

Please make it so.

I've gotten to a point where I don't really recognize NTs as being so goddamn righteous. Enough with the "help", I'm a human with very complex opinions and thoughts. Not to mention many NTs are stupider than many autistic people, anyway.



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29 Dec 2014, 2:26 pm

I wouldn't because I don't think it's a good idea to have different groups of people be separated--we should be working on accepting each other regardless of whether we have a disability or not. Besides, what if an autistic couple had a child who wasn't autistic? Would the child be kicked out of the country?



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29 Dec 2014, 4:18 pm

Hell no. It would be like living in a mental institute without doctors and staff. No offense, but many aspies have mental and emotional issues (including myself in it, of course) So I don't think it will work.



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29 Dec 2014, 4:21 pm

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I wouldn't because I don't think it's a good idea to have different groups of people be separated--we should be working on accepting each other regardless of whether we have a disability or not. Besides, what if an autistic couple had a child who wasn't autistic? Would the child be kicked out of the country?


Both these questions have already been answered. Please look further up the thread :-)

The state I have in mind is so small that any NT's being born would be outnumbered by immigration of autistic people. I hope we can treat them better than they treat us.



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29 Dec 2014, 4:43 pm

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Absolutely not! But not for the reasons most say.

I would not for the reason that an aspie society would obviously be an extreamly liberal/socialist society based on the viewpoints I see on this forum. I believe in a conservative, lassey-faire, free market, limited government society where taxes are low and personal freedom is high.

I am one of the few conservative autistics.

You can think of Wrongplanet as some sort of virtual aspie/autistic state here, one thing I often find here is the problem of political correctness, so based on your post and my obsevation here, will this state have too much censorship and less freedom of speech? apparantly, so we are a bit better where we are now.

On the other hand, given the different mindset of the population here, I imagine four different aspie/autistic states or should I say utopias. It might be more but I can only think of four at the moment:

1. a feminist state 2. an anarchist state. 3. a communist state, 4. a social liberalism state

Two of them, will suppress freedom of speech and freedom in general, one is too radical to work and the other looks a bit better to me, although it should guarantee freedom.

However the state is, being populated only by aspie and autistic people, I don't think it would work.



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29 Dec 2014, 10:55 pm

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A society of monologuers will not work.. and i am duly noted to have this common spectrum trait...


I don't know about that. My last remaining friend and I are known for having our conversations being simultaneous monologues on different subjects... and having conversations that are entirely quotes from futurama. This is true for both written contact and verbal contact.

All that is absolutely required is listeners. The society may not be able to advance very well, but it could exist. It's entirely speculative.


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29 Dec 2014, 11:47 pm

Protogenoi wrote:
aghogday wrote:
A society of monologuers will not work.. and i am duly noted to have this common spectrum trait...


I don't know about that. My last remaining friend and I are known for having our conversations being simultaneous monologues on different subjects... and having conversations that are entirely quotes from futurama. This is true for both written contact and verbal contact.

All that is absolutely required is listeners. The society may not be able to advance very well, but it could exist. It's entirely speculative.


The main reason it truly won't work is many folks who are Autistic are neither listeners or talkers, as science proves out.

I haven't really found that many REAL 'MONOLOGUE type' Autistic FOLKS ON THIS site, but yeah, some in real life.

This is also a site for folks who suspect they have the diagnosis, which means it is pretty much a free for all here, but I am cool with everyone so that is absolutely no issue for me, and why I ABSOLUTELY ABHOR ANY IDEA OF AN US VS THEM IDEOLOGY as no one scares or bothers me in REAL LIFE, AT LEAST NOW, TG. :)

It would never get off the ground as every thread here discussing it is just one long split hair, and that is okay too, as that is the nature of the beast that is Autism, as well.

'Cats' do not function well as a society, as they do tend to go their own way, and that's okay too, to each his own, as long as they do NOT impact my freedoms as what I love in being as a TRULY FREE U.S. CITIZEN, TAKING ADVANTAGE of all the freedoms that does MEAN, for folks who understand how to exercise those rights freely, in real life now. :)

And hell YES, it's hard work, as FREEDOM IS NOT COST FREE, anywhere in human existence, EVER, FOR one who lives within their means. :)


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30 Dec 2014, 9:58 am

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On the other hand, given the different mindset of the population here, I imagine four different aspie/autistic states or should I say utopias. It might be more but I can only think of four at the moment:

1. a feminist state 2. an anarchist state. 3. a communist state, 4. a social liberalism state


You could have a swiss (or American) style federation of areas with different ideologies. Making collective state-wide decisions would take longer, but it's not impossible.



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30 Dec 2014, 10:08 am

o0iella wrote:
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I wouldn't because I don't think it's a good idea to have different groups of people be separated--we should be working on accepting each other regardless of whether we have a disability or not. Besides, what if an autistic couple had a child who wasn't autistic? Would the child be kicked out of the country?


Both these questions have already been answered. Please look further up the thread :-)

The state I have in mind is so small that any NT's being born would be outnumbered by immigration of autistic people. I hope we can treat them better than they treat us.

Sorry. I wasn't really asking a question, just stating a reason for why I thought separating autistics and non-autistics didn't make sense. I guess in my excitement to post, I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread :D



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30 Dec 2014, 10:19 am

I would if I could hire an NT or two to help me out on the difficult stuff.


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24 Jan 2015, 9:38 pm

after discussion with o0iella, we have created this forum. If you are supportive in any way, please register.

http://autisticstate.prophpbb.com/

We believe an autistic state IS possible after all.

The future starts here.


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24 Jan 2015, 10:18 pm

blunnet wrote:
Hell no. It would be like living in a mental institute without doctors and staff. No offense, but many aspies have mental and emotional issues (including myself in it, of course) So I don't think it will work.


...and NTs don't have issues themselves?



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25 Jan 2015, 1:59 pm

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after discussion with o0iella, we have created this forum. If you are supportive in any way, please register.

http://autisticstate.prophpbb.com/

We believe an autistic state IS possible after all.

The future starts here.


Thank you very much Thomas81!

I am Xslzunqat on that message board.

There is a strong chance that an Autistic state could exist in the next few months.....

any questions you have, please post them on the board!



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25 Jan 2015, 9:01 pm

The idea of an Autistic state, I assume you mean sovereign nation by this, is so complicated that only really tiny generalizations can be bantered here. And it couldn't really exist today, maybe in a few centuries if the world becomes a great deal more progressive in its social policies. It would also require humanity to not be solely stuck on Earth and to have acquired renewable technologies that that make resource constrains no longer a problem.

No I wouldn't live in an Autistic nation if one could even possibly be created in the present. I might live in a district or state within my own country of the United States that had a high ASD population if I felt I could no longer make it within the vast neurotypical population. It would be a part of the greater U.S. economy and would therefore have a structure that would be applicable to the present. Not in the same way as Native American reservations, but as an actual state. Good luck at that though.



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26 Jan 2015, 1:13 am

OMG no! Could you imagine what that would be like? You can't put a bunch of us together on an online forum without all kinds of misunderstandings and conflict. If you put us together face to face and forced us to live there it would be a bloodbath.


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