Andrew Wakefield published a study in 1998 It made us sicker
16 Years Ago, A Doctor Published A Study. It Was Completely Made Up, And It Made Us All Sicker.
After years of controversy and making parents mistrust vaccines, along with collecting $674,000 from lawyers who would benefit from suing vaccine makers, it was discovered he had made the whole thing up. The Lancet publicly apologized and reported that further investigation led to the discovery that he had fabricated everything.
In the intervening years, millions have been spent on studying this further to see if there was anything that could connect autism and vaccines. This is what they found.
http://www.upworthy.com/16-years-ago-a- ... ker?c=ufb3
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That is certainly scary. It's hard when a large number of people refuse to use logic and objectively evaluate what they hear. Most people have incredibly counterproductive confirmation bias.
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Thanks Alex for reminding me just how insane our world truly is.
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There is a link between vaccines and infant death:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
It appears that at a certain stage in nations' movement up the socio-economic scale—after the basic necessities for infant survival (proper nutrition, sanitation, clean water, and access to health care) have been met—a counter-intuitive relationship occurs between the number of vaccines given to infants and infant mortality rates: nations with higher (worse) infant mortality rates give their infants, on average, more vaccine doses. This positive correlation, derived from the data and demonstrated in Figures 1 and and2,2, elicits an important inquiry: are some infant deaths associated with over-vaccination?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
It appears that at a certain stage in nations' movement up the socio-economic scale—after the basic necessities for infant survival (proper nutrition, sanitation, clean water, and access to health care) have been met—a counter-intuitive relationship occurs between the number of vaccines given to infants and infant mortality rates: nations with higher (worse) infant mortality rates give their infants, on average, more vaccine doses. This positive correlation, derived from the data and demonstrated in Figures 1 and and2,2, elicits an important inquiry: are some infant deaths associated with over-vaccination?
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/ ... ity-rates/
The US has a broader definition of birth than other nations in the study, which makes our infant mortality look higher. Furthermore, they only compared the U.S. to places with higher IMRs, blatant cherry-picking.
I'm not saying that vaccines cause ASDs, but did you notice underneath the blue part that says, "Common vaccine myths" these are explanations that don't quote any studies?
As for the "Drug companies only do it to make profits" explanation, they say that the profits from the vaccines "only accounts for approximately 2-3% of the total pharaceutical market". That is actually a significant amount.
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Drug companies' purpose *is* to make money. However, generally the best way to make money is to create something that has value.
Car companies exist to make money too. But you don't hear many of these parents refusing to drive cars. Yet cars kill far more people per day than vaccines do per entire year.
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A few days on Facebook I was reminded bluntly just what trolls anti-vaccine people are. From labeling anyone who gets a flu shot as "sheeple" and saying how stupid they are, to firmly believing that vaccines are full of mercury and cause autism. I guess eventually they'll see their sad mistakes when childhood diseases that were once rare reach epidemic proportions and kill people or leave them disabled for life a lot worse than autism ever would.
Of course the majority of anti-vaccine trolls on Facebook are American. Americans just looove anything loaded with paranoia fuel.
Well, I guess I don't have to worry since I actually got all my shots, and it may end up helping human overpopulation. Natures way of "Thinning the herd", as in those with fewer active brain cells.
These things happen. If you become a well enough respected scientist (as in publish a few good few papers already), then it is possible to slip in some nonsense. It is usually discovered before the next issue of the journal it's published in and removed. This system is incredibly efficient at stopping mistakes, fraud , and quackery. And it normally keeps scientists from publishing crap, because it endangers their livelihood to do so.
In this case though, Dr. Wakerfield gathered a cult movement. He may have been dismissed from the status of credible scientist, but he remains a popular figure.
Well, I guess I don't have to worry since I actually got all my shots, and it may end up helping human overpopulation. Natures way of "Thinning the herd", as in those with fewer active brain cells.
And also Australians... Australia now has a group of antivaxxers that are growing exponentially and the rate of people refusing vaccines is increasing... bu when you look at all the crap happening there it really isn't much of a surprise.
But unfortunately, the "thinning (of) the herd" will effect you to. As the diseases we can immunize for rage throughout the world, it will create an environment better suited for other diseases to infect us too. This includes a decrease in hospital beds, which is something that really is already a problem in many places.
Not only that, but the amounts of anibiotics used in trying to heal them will increase the rate of evolution for resistant strains of bacteria, which is another very serious problem...
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Finland noticed a vaccine was increasing kids chances of getting narcolepsy
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concer ... emrix.html
Kids under 5 having fits after taking flu vaccine
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... cials.html
Flu vaccines STILL contain mercury
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
3 whistleblowers implicated merck vaccines
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-s ... 81914.html
The German polticians get a different vaccine to the public!
http://content.time.com/time/health/art ... 66,00.html
http://link.springer.com/article/10.100 ... 013-8429-4
human use not only as vaccine adjuvant but also as a
common additive in various processed foods, cosmetics or
pharmaceutical products. A now abundant literature shows
that exposure of humans and animals to aluminum from
various sources can have deleterious consequences on
nervous system, especially in adults [33]. This fact was
extensively addressed by Shaw and Tomljenovic [33] who
described the association between aluminum exposure and
amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, Alzheimer’s disease or aut-
ism spectrum disorders [34].
Anti-vaxx can't prove that vaccines cause autism (or anything else) in healthy individuals.
Pro-vaxx can't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't.
Here's what I have to say: I am 110% certain that the "increase" in cases of autism has to do with the lowering threshold for diagnosis. In 2012, I'm a high-functioning autistic. In 1982, a "high-functioning autistic" was one who could point and screech with some semblance of meaning and maybe manage not to bite you while you were changing his (always his) diaper.
With that said, I've seen whooping cough, a baby with pneumococcal pneumonia, and autism. One of them will seriously and permanently screw you up forever and ever after, pretty much guaranteed, and has absolutely no redeeming traits of any kid other than some incredibly strong narcotic cough syrup and six weeks' unpaid leave. One of them is so fecking scary that, once seen, you won't forget it in a hurry. And the other one is autism.
Based on that, I think I'll let my kids take their chances with autism.
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http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concer ... emrix.html
Kids under 5 having fits after taking flu vaccine
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... cials.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-s ... 81914.html
these links were truncated and gave 404 errors.
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
Thimerosol breaks down into ethyl mercury, rather than the known toxic methyl mercury. Comparing them is like saying the hydrogen in water might explode inside you because it's what's in hydrogen bombs.
all you gotta do is search on google for:
whistleblowers implicated merck vaccines
and youll get the story.
here is a quote from the philadelphia legal examiner:
Then search for
'finland narcolepsy vaccine' to get the other one
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