Erdoğan, president of Turkey, is corrupt!

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Oh, great, Erdoğan, president of Turkey, the clown who blocked YouTube, arrested someone for saying he's corrupt. Let's shout it out loud!

YOU f*****g CORRUPT PIG, YOU CERTAINLY WON'T ARREST ANYONE ELSE, YOU ret*d!! !

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... sCatID=341

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No s**t.

Turkey is going down hill fast.

But seriously, Ecuador imprisoned a journalist who called the president a dictator, and this is the place the Julian Assange want to claim asylum in. Odd choice, then again Snowden picked Russia, and even tried China (whoch don't even hide its surveillance program and firewall) So we have to be either pragmatic, or willing to call out all injustice.

Turkey has usually relied on its military to keep it secular, even it was by force.

But now as the current generation, there isn't enough will in the military to to this. The reality is outside of Islanbul then is still a lot of people with Erdoğan's mindset, and in the military.

Old generals might be a threat, as they have sort of relied on guaranteed power all along. But they are not a threat, if their troupes won't follow orders to disobey Erdoğan.

Like a lot of countries in the region, there is a push back from development and progress for some reason.

This topic was addressed on the World at One again. Apparently, one can't say that he is a dick if one is inside Turkey. Oops.

Erdoğan, you smelly dick!

But seriously, he sucks.

Anyone here actually know anything about Turkish grassroots politics?

If the government were to stop its top-down pressure to maintain secularism what would happen?

Would populist Islamism rise up in Turkey? Or does populism have secular forms in Turkey to balance it out?

A destablized ( or an overly fervently Islamist) Turkey is NOT something that I would wanna see at this moment (look at the map!).

Somebody (I think a New Yawk Times reporter) quoted King Abdullah of Jordan as saying that while both Erdogan and then-President Morsi of Egypt sought absolute power, Erdogan was more dangerous because he was craftier.

It's sad that a Turkic country is heading down this road.

He has another army in his pocket, and it's called ISIS.

And he is (and his sick party) waging his wars with it outside Turkey....for now.

Turkey's near future is troubling.

Erdogan is not a good man for sure, he is a treacherous ally who has done almost as much as the US in facilitating the growth and development of ISIS. Pretty much all those foreign fighters in Syria and Iraq entered from the Turkish border, that seemed to be the most common route. I think their secularist commitment will continue to wane, the secularists in the military aren't as powerful as they once were and there is so much happening in the Middle East that could push people to the fringes. The fact is that Erdogan seems to be pretty popular in Turkey, what we wish they were isn't reality. Cosmopolitan liberal city dwellers and students rarely ever represent the views of the majority. I imagine the vast majority of Turks probably would oppose any coup by the military, the last one was in 1980 and it isn't anything they want to repeat.

I think NATO and Europe should reevaluate their relationship with Turkey, its not the cold war anymore.