The rise of Fascism in Europe

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Yeah. It is happening in the USA. But lots of people do not know that.....

Recent polls confirm it.

It seems to me that the main reason you are making this assertion that "antisemitism" in Europe and/or Greece is mainly a "leftist" phenomenon is that you are a hardcore Zionist who has found that you don't get as much sympathy for Israel from white/European "leftists" as you do from white/European "rightists".

In addition, by making this assertion you are telling white/European rightists "hey, it's ok for you to oppose Muslim influence in your societies, but make sure you don't start opposing Jewish influence - you wouldn't want to be like those 'leftists', would you?" Of course, this will quite likely work on some people, since some people will form their opinions depending on whether they're told that those opinions belong in the "right wing" or the "left wing" box.

As for "anti-Semitism", it is (as many "leftist anti-Zionists" fail to realise) just a nonsense term Jews use to attack anyone who stands in the way (whether intentionally or not) of Jewish interests.

I would say that the HUGE economic problem in Greece is most likely responsible for that. Unemployment is at 26.1% the average wage is shrinking greatly and there is hundreds of jobless people moving to Greece only to be unable to work anyways.

And i personally believe that its things like this that breed political radicalism (ie Communist revolutions in incredibly poor countries) heck a big part of the reason Hitler came into power and had really good support was because he really did help Germany's economy get back on its feet

Which polls?

The question here of "the rise of fascism in Europe" is not a matter of if, and it's not even a matter of when, but rather, what. What will happen to Europe?

It's become quite apparent that the European Union is in an absolute state of crisis. You're seeing nationalist movements pop up everywhere in Europe and the cracks in the wall are showing at a faster rate. We have:
*The UKIP in the United Kingdom
*Anti-Islamists and perhaps others in Germany (where traditionally far-right politics have been somewhat avoided for obvious reasons)
*Republicans in Spain
*Nationalist movements in Portugal
*Greece has enough on its table
*Scotland coming close to independence and Catalonia and the Basque Country seeking such
List goes on, and on, and on.

The biggest problem with the European Union is that no one will be willing to die for it. Unlike the United States, Canada, Latin America or even Australia or New Zealand, where a (in theory) unified culture has a set of values that everyone lives by, the E.U. is basically a bunch of countries that want to keep peace, democracy, and economic stability. The EU never replaced the traditional cultures that have always existed in Europe. With the crippling economic recessions and the problem of newcoming immigrants who have no real connection to the traditional European countries, will anyone really die for the EU? No, what instead we have is a "save yourself" kind of situation. The SNP and the Catalans are very well aware of this, and have taken/took full advantage. The Russians know of this EU-infighting and therefore have been able to make a move.

The situation in Europe is quite scary with the nationalists. Unlike traditional conservative/liberal parties, the nationalists sort of provide an "immediate answer". With the bad economy, rising immigration rate, and unhappy population, as well as the rise of Russia, this is an incredibly volatile mix.

^^^ You are talking of the EU as if it is a single country. It is a bunch of treaties between independent states. There is no single European identity, and when I was growing up I did not even know I lived in the EU. I don't think anyone expected a single identity, since people in one country have a completely different language and culture compared to the next country. Most citizens can't even point out all the EU countries on the map, or tell whether they are part of the EU, Eurozone, Schengen or none of them. I predict the EU will stay a bureaucratic entity and never become a common identity.
I got the feeling the Scottish independence referendum was more about the union with the UK than about the EU. I would expect that if Scotland had become independent they would have later (re)joined the EU.
I think the biggest problem is the economy, and the messed up way the Eurozone functions. With the new quantitative easing they made it so that it is not aimed at the countries where the economy is worst, but it is distributed evenly according to size of the economy, because sending money to Southern Europe would be hard for a politician to justify in Germany for example. It's always these strange political compromises.

The problem with the EU is the same problem experienced by the US under the articles of confederation... You cannot have a strong economic union and a weak political one.

You guys need to fully unify or fully separate. What you're doing now will never last.

I don't think a full unification is really possible. Even now there are 24 languages that are official for use within EU organisations, and they need an army of translators. People are not suddenly going to speak German or English.

Yeah, I think you're right about that.

The only other thing to do is stop punishing the south and starving their economies. Dump in A LOT of stimulus money to get things going again and the eurozone might last a few more years.

If things keep going as they are, why should countries like Greece remain in the EU? Could things really be worse for them on their own?

I can tell you, things WILL be much worse for Germany if they have to start pricing their exports in Marks again—they won’t be nearly so cheap as in euros.

I expect the opposite to happen possibly, Germany remaining in the Eurozone but the weaker states dropping out of it and re-adopting their old currency. I think it would have been a better idea not to force every country to adopt the euro as soon as they meet the criteria. It definately makes sense for some countries, for example in the Netherlands the guilder was pegged to the Dmark long before the introduction of the euro in 2002, because most of our trade is with Germany. We will probably follow Germany whether they stay or go.
I just saw on the news Siriza won an absolute majority in Greece. Interesting times.
My prediction is that the EU won't fall apart but just stumble on in their own half-assed way. Some new countries join, maybe some even leave, but in the end no one really cares.

We conservatives are all facists at heart anyway.
Just ask any liberal if you don't believe me.

United States may be a clusterf**k but I don't think it's anywhere close to Europe. The US is more of at "a bridge" if anything. In fact I'd argue the U.S. has an even lesser chance than Europe; Europe has a much stronger tradition of "love thy homeland". On the other hand, the United States has always been able to integrate incoming ethnicities and move on.

Yeah, I think you're probably right, at least in the short term....

But here's the thing. Even if countries like Germany and other stronger northern European states stay with the euro and the weaker, southern European countries drop out, it will still change the value of the euro.

In the long term I'm betting the euro would be much stronger, and that would still hurt German exports. Having those southern 'weak sisters' in the eurozone helps to keep the euro weaker without overt currency manipulation (like China is always accused of).

At any rate, if countries start withdrawing from the eurozone, it's gonna hurt everyone. I think it will hurt the northern countries more than they realize (in the short term).

If they're smart, they will look into forgiving debt and adopting a more pro growth economic policy for southern Europe.