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DentArthurDent
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26 Jan 2015, 5:32 pm
DentArthurDent wrote:
^ I find this really offensive and at the same time really asinine. I have a great deal of evidence that my mother exists, in fact anyone who has ever lived has a great deal of evidence for the existence of their mother or at the the very least the existence of the originator of their egg.
The problem here is people extend a kind of anthropomorphism to the universe, in that we all have parents, all life on earth has parents/parent therefore the universe must have a parent. We have a tiny inkling regarding the causation of the universe and that is all. Within this knowledge there is ZERO evidence of an "uncaused first cause"
The use of god as a creator creates more issues than it solves, and certainly the idea of a theistic god, one who can interfere with daily happenings on this planet raises, a great many more questions regarding his character and competency.
The problem here is people extend a kind of anthropomorphism to the universe, in that we all have parents, all life on earth has parents/parent therefore the universe must have a parent. We have a tiny inkling regarding the causation of the universe and that is all. Within this knowledge there is ZERO evidence of an "uncaused first cause"
The use of god as a creator creates more issues than it solves, and certainly the idea of a theistic god, one who can interfere with daily happenings on this planet raises, a great many more questions regarding his character and competency.
Dude, 'Mother' Nature True, is a metaphor, not A HUMAN WITH A Vagi'.
The reported words in the Gnostic Gospels of Jesus use similar metaphors.
Unfortunately as it may be, SOME Literal thinking fundamentalist religious folks and SOME atheists CONTINUE to take this OUT of context.
'Mother' Nature True 'IS yOur Master', get used to 'her', and live COOPERATIVELY with her, as a 'friend', in the Literal HEAVEN OF NOW or PAY THE CONSEQUENCES in the Literal HELL OF NOW.
AND TO BE CLEAR, crystal clear, this IS A METAPHOR NOT directed personally at YA.
P.S.
SORRY, if I made her sound like A MAFIA GIRL.
AND oh by the way, there is ABSOLUTELY NO RULE OR ABSOLUTE TRUTH THAT STATES THAT MOTHER Nature True has to play by HUMAN DERIVED RULES OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
WHAT that means IS Mother Nature TRUE CAN be a strange and synchronistic chick too!...
In other words the CHICKEN CAN COME BEFORE THE EGG, IN GOD'S 'mind'.
UnleSS someone can PROVE 'IT' CANNOT GENERATE 'IT' 'SELF'.
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26 Jan 2015, 7:52 pm
aghogday wrote:
AND oh by the way, there is ABSOLUTELY NO RULE OR ABSOLUTE TRUTH THAT STATES THAT MOTHER Nature True has to play by HUMAN DERIVED RULES OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
Mother Nature TRUE CAN be a strange and synchronistic chick too!...
Ahh DUDE tHIS is wHaT I am GEtting At DUDE. WeLL AT lEAsT thAT iS WhAT I am SayinG aBoUT tHE CAusTation oF ThE UNiVERSE What"s yOur PoINt.
You see nature as God, you see it as a sentient thing with a direction and purpose . For which there is no evidence. As to the post by Sophisticated I do not see any inference that they have the same concept for god as you. What I get from their post is the canard "its Self Evident' that an Abrahamic version of god exists. Again this is an assumption one that I am happy for Sophisticated to elaborate upon.
I tell you aghog reading your writing style is hard but using it is harder, you must be exhausted or is this another of your superhuman abilities.
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26 Jan 2015, 11:09 pm
DentArthurDent wrote:
aghogday wrote:
AND oh by the way, there is ABSOLUTELY NO RULE OR ABSOLUTE TRUTH THAT STATES THAT MOTHER Nature True has to play by HUMAN DERIVED RULES OF CAUSE AND EFFECT.
Mother Nature TRUE CAN be a strange and synchronistic chick too!...
Ahh DUDE tHIS is wHaT I am GEtting At DUDE. WeLL AT lEAsT thAT iS WhAT I am SayinG aBoUT tHE CAusTation oF ThE UNiVERSE What"s yOur PoINt.
You see nature as God, you see it as a sentient thing with a direction and purpose . For which there is no evidence. As to the post by Sophisticated I do not see any inference that they have the same concept for god as you. What I get from their post is the canard "its Self Evident' that an Abrahamic version of god exists. Again this is an assumption one that I am happy for Sophisticated to elaborate upon.
I tell you aghog reading your writing style is hard but using it is harder, you must be exhausted or is this another of your superhuman abilities.
I did not say Mother Nature True is a sentient thing with a direction and purpose.
That would be assigning anthropomorphic abilities to Mother Nature True and that is something I do not literally do.
I specifically stated what I was saying was metaphor; per the quotes around mind and wink by chick.
And truly being me is fun.
Sorry, I forgot about your distaste for my style of literary devices.
So I am going easy on you here.
The problem is you assumed the other individual meant an Abrahamic GOD, and that is a natural preconceived potential fallacy that I offered another point of view for.
Truly not many people believe in the bearded sky GOD anymore.
But yes, sadly enough, MANY folks still believe that the human, Jesus, if he really existed is the frigging King of the Universe.
A humble Yogi leaning teacher is at most what he was, crucified or not.
But yes, Yogis can be amazing and it is no wonder back then if he achieved some of the things they can do that folks expressed awe for the dude wherever he went.
It happens to me all the time in real life. And yes, I'm dead serious about that. I do not ask for it, it's JUST AN ALL NATURAL OCCURRENCE.
AND OF course I CAN PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE on request.
I better leave now, before more caps come.
26 Jan 2015, 11:15 pm
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Why? It is simple. The Divine Proportion. The Golden Ratio. Phi. 1:1.618. I like to think of it as God's signature in the margins of His work.
Phi pops up in nature: http://www.io9.com/5985588/15-uncanny-e ... -in-nature .
It influences a lot of things including design, architecture, art, finance, physiology and weather, among other things: http://www.goldennumber.net/ .
Even our own solar system: https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/02 ... io-why-phi .
Anyway, something this ubiquitous can't be coincidental. I have other reasons for believing, but Phi is the most interesting.
Phi pops up in nature: http://www.io9.com/5985588/15-uncanny-e ... -in-nature .
It influences a lot of things including design, architecture, art, finance, physiology and weather, among other things: http://www.goldennumber.net/ .
Even our own solar system: https://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/02 ... io-why-phi .
Anyway, something this ubiquitous can't be coincidental. I have other reasons for believing, but Phi is the most interesting.
I agree with this and use it in my poetry all the time to express the beauty of the patterns of GOD above, so below, within us and outside of us.
Yes, Phi is cool.
And GOD is even more amazing, taken all things and possibilities into account.
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