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23 Jan 2015, 4:45 pm



A must see. Great debate. :D

Rip to both.



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23 Jan 2015, 5:09 pm

I think the price of back hair dye will finally go down, now these two are dead.



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23 Jan 2015, 6:38 pm

Damn!

They disabled it. Will have to go to U Tube.

I am sure that in person Kaddaffi was much like he was as a book author:"more entertaining than coherent" (in the words of the wiki book reviewer of his famous "Green Book").

That clip must be a good show.



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23 Jan 2015, 6:43 pm

Looks like some of them are falling asleep, haha. That's quite a bone to pick, accusing the old King of selling out to the Americans over his Muslim Brethren. No wonder peace always eludes.

And it is so hard to believe the King was 90 years old, too. Looks about 50.



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23 Jan 2015, 7:59 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Looks like some of them are falling asleep, haha. That's quite a bone to pick, accusing the old King of selling out to the Americans over his Muslim Brethren. No wonder peace always eludes.

And it is so hard to believe the King was 90 years old, too. Looks about 50.


King Salman, the new king, is nearly 80 and may have Alzheimer's.


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24 Jan 2015, 12:14 am

Well, at least Abdullah will never know the pain of being sodomized with a knife.


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24 Jan 2015, 7:50 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Looks like some of them are falling asleep, haha. That's quite a bone to pick, accusing the old King of selling out to the Americans over his Muslim Brethren. No wonder peace always eludes.

And it is so hard to believe the King was 90 years old, too. Looks about 50.


King Salman, the new king, is nearly 80 and may have Alzheimer's.


Hope he is at least half as wise as his Biblical namesake.

Not a linguist, but I would guess that "Salman" is the Arabic rendering of "Solomon" making the new guy a modern day "King Solomon".



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24 Jan 2015, 11:21 am

This speech by Gaddafi was prophetic. To think Assad laughed then at the idea of the Americans turning on him.


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24 Jan 2015, 12:55 pm

Ironically, Kings and Princes in the Arab world always do better than the so-called presidents.



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24 Jan 2015, 1:11 pm

Wasn't it this video?



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24 Jan 2015, 1:39 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ironically, Kings and Princes in the Arab world always do better than the so-called presidents.


There often is not that much of a difference either, some "presidents" such as the Assad presidents are much like a dynasty. Makes no difference whether they call themselves kings or not. Though perhaps kings get a little more acceptance just because of the title. I noticed monarchs are often more popular then politicians, it's mostly true in Europe too.



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24 Jan 2015, 2:08 pm

trollcatman wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ironically, Kings and Princes in the Arab world always do better than the so-called presidents.


There often is not that much of a difference either, some "presidents" such as the Assad presidents are much like a dynasty. Makes no difference whether they call themselves kings or not. Though perhaps kings get a little more acceptance just because of the title. I noticed monarchs are often more popular then politicians, it's mostly true in Europe too.


That's because a dictator self-appointed "president" usually comes to power thro bloody brute force, so most likely he wouldn't be a some gentle person but rather some power-hungry psycho, usually any first person of any monarch line is of that crazy type.


While Kings (ie. Saudi Arabia, Jordan) or Princes (ie. UAE) rule by the virtue by virtue of birth to a family considered royal - at least there's a form of parliament(Shura) determining the new candidates, and giving power from brother to brother seems to work better than from father to son, at least they're making sure the new ruler is a wise old man rather than some young adult whom power might get to his head.
it's simply dictatorship system which has matured a bit better with time than newer dictator lines like Assad and Gaddafi.



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24 Jan 2015, 2:55 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
it's simply dictatorship system which has matured a bit better with time than newer dictator lines like Assad and Gaddafi.


Too bad many of these don't evolve into constitutional monarchies like in Europe. Because Saudi Arabia is stable, but it must suck to live there. They showed videos on the news here of the beatings and beheadings over there (of course leaving out the actual beheading bit). I wonder if these people are still "allies" when the oil runs out or is replaced by another source of energy.