Paranoid schizophrenia vs aspergers

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The part about the 911 call was rather extreme I admit but I have been in such states so extreme that I could imagine such a thing just for the sole protection of myself and everyone around me. So what I mean here is that this is a positive action and not a negative action and yet it is still threatening to others and still causes harm to others.

It's a thought experiment but one deeply rooted in my own mind.

Just to say no I don't think your vague as I find it very hard to understand a distinction that isn't in the realms of my own head. and it is a complicated subject for me to solve, but I am persistent in my efforts, thankyou for your time and patience more so. I find your comments interesting and challenging and am still wondering myself where this is leading. Your right There is an underlying cause to my post, my main reasons being my farther was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenia and I'm trying to make the comparison, the reason I have beaten round the bush is because I tend to talk because it's about me and that's selfish of me, so I tried to keep the issue away from myself, but it keeps coming back
To be honest my father never rolled on the floor or clucked like a chicken or made funny noises and he was a very talented successful artist.
If anything he would frown at me for being the joker, although my farther always had an earthy feel to him, he did end up hospitalised after thinking people hated him. I was young at the time so I didn't understand. I don't have my father around now so it's up to me to figure myself out. Sorry if this sounds depressing I wanted to keep the chat informal. I don't know what to expect from these chat rooms as I don't usually do loads of chatting, but I'm hooked for the time being.

I'm not seriously bothered about my own sanity I just wanted to know if the doctors had made a mistake somewhere.
I suppose not having a general trust for somebody else determining my mind set is probably paranoid schizophrenic but I fear What's the point if I don't understand myself. How is the doctor supposed to know if I can't tell him properly. And anyway my feelings was aspergers so the only reason I was loosing my mind is because I can't figure it out. Lol

My point being why did he think people hated him because he used to say things like oh I don't understand why all my friends are getting married and settling down, maybe he was saying it because he wasn't but it's un doubtful I don't know, I couldn't see that at the time. I don't know why he never settled down. Anyhow.

I suppose I was also in a dissociative mind state as I was thinking about me also and It was harder to imagine what the
Other people might have done other than the Two obvious outcomes which was either to flee or help, the 911 was bizarre because is saw it as a threat although you said it was a cry for help so I took this the wrong way.
I suppose I would be a little spooked out but I really can't tell the situation by words alone.
It would all depend in the way he/she said it to me by the tone of his/hers voice.

Sometimes I get bad thoughts about people.

Yes I can automatically assume the worst and easily jump to conclusions without thinking.
So I try to get a better picture of the scenario as best I can.

I try to deny them but they are there.
If I get bad thoughts I try to identify them, I will persist until the bad feeling is no longer there. If it does not break one of my rules like steal, lie, bully I can let minor things go I've got more important issues to press without worrying what somebody thinks
Of me.

Sometimes I do get racist thoughts or sexist thoughts

Never, I would get narcissistic thoughts because I can have a dark sense of humour, but I would never share them unless I knew it was just for a laugh, hence narcissistic, never serious,
If someone was deeply hurt about my comment I would be deeply upset with myself

or thoughts about people that remind me of myself that I don't like.

Lessons I have learned I sometimes think I wish people would just grow up but I have to re check myself and say no one is
Perfect and I'm far from myself, so I can seem interfering but sometimes I wish I didn't do that either.

Sometimes I find myself not liking people that remind me of myself.

No I look for people like me, if I don't get along there of the radar, I hope I don't have any enemy's and the friends I do I hope there my friends, i would be bored easy in certain company I think I'm quite selective. I tend to be able to sort other people's problems out better than my own.

I usually don't find myself not liking people that are not like myself but it's all kind of the same.

This question is confusing me for some reason i think it's the don't with the not. This is really hard for me to answer because of the way it's written, I don't know why it's so trivial for me sometimes.

Maybe I need sleep I will come back to that question.

I just wanted to ask a question if I may. You said that the story you made up was a deluded thought, do you mean it was deluded in the sense you made it up or some other factor.

It's good to speak to you sorry that message got really long.

This is fascinating thankyou

Ps the cat looks cosy

Wow I only just realised you was 15, hope you don't mind me saying, please don't take my post to seriously, I've got to say for your age you do a lot of thinking, that's good. I thought you was much older. I suppose age does not matter but maybe you should be playing the play station. I have been very selfish. Sorry

Lol, no I'm not 15. I suppose I should update that!

I don't like to disclose my precise age but I'm certainly older than 15.

And you're right, sometimes it is better just to do rather than to think.

I truly believe that in some cases it might actually be the most humane thing to simply treat the superficial symptoms and don't talk about anything too deep or complex or mystifying unless the other person wants to.

For example, a therapist who believes very strongly in multiple personality disorder can actually cause the disorder to occur in other people. Sometimes it's nice to just turn on some depressing music, get a good cry, turn on some good music and imagine the most wonderful things ever. Sometimes it is nice just to take a run.

@heavenlyabyss

Do you know what you are absolutely right,

I just looked at multiple personality disorder.

I've just come to realise that I'm just not intelligent enough to work this out and it's driving me more crazy doing it.

I'm too old for any diagnosis and I have faced many challenges, things no one else should face.

My life is way to complicated to work it out now.

So for now..............

Sorry your life has been difficult.

And sorry if my posts were selfish. I was thinking about myself more than anyone else. Trying to prove some theory.

@heavenlyabyss

Thank you for your apology,
I understand

I feel I need to apologise too
As I am selfish and I completely understand about not seeing the full picture.

It's easier to picture my point of view before seeing anyone else's, I sometimes read text wrong, and I read it out of context, and then I write mostly from my point of view and experiences, and even then sometimes I don't write my sentences properly. I can get distracted half way through writing something and then I loose my train of thought, sometimes I get so distracted by reading something and I can't connect with what's being conveyed. It's so annoying because it does not do me justice of what people think of me sometimes.

It's ok if you want to prove a theory, but I suppose another problem of mine is not knowing what the main point is all the time so I can get side tracked easily.

It's my fault entirely because I'm not used to how the forums work properly, obviously there is a method to keeping the chats on track, and this is something I'm trying to figure out without doing to many people's heads in with my all over the place comments.

I always get sidetracked easy because one example leads to the next and then all of a sudden I'm talking of topic.

I shouldn't expect people to deal with some of my topic, it's too heavy. And then I saw the age of 15 and I couldn't believe what I had written, all I could think was I just filled this kids head with my garbage.

No it's wrong of me.
So that again I must apologise.

And how rude of me we haven't even properly introduced so I will take this opportunity to say Hi, it's good to meet you
And your questions were providing me insight by answering them, I hope you didn't mind.

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And you are right, I shouldn't get to obsessed by it all. Sorry you did make sense and I was having a personal moment.

Also I have come here to try and get a broader perspective for my self and improve my awareness. I suppose no one ever said it would be easy.

Everything you are saying is making perfect sense. I think perhaps we are both apologizing for no reason, lol.

@heavenlyabyss

Lol, I think you are a good person.

So how can we explain what just happened. Lol

I think this just proves that we were going to say what we were going to say regardless, but still have the other persons feelings in there best interest. Some times it's hard to know the full force
Of your own question, and it's like picking a card of of a hat what the response will be which can leave a person thinking "why did I say that" when they don't get the response they expected or the response seems negative.

Sometimes the truth isn't always easy, and sometimes not being able to find the truth isn't easy either. Trust me if I feel that you offended me I would tell you.

It's interesting because we don't know each other's perspective and I think we are asking the main question oblivious, well i am oblivious still, I think I get it but I still don't, I don't know about you? Lol.

I've got a feeling it's about us because we asked the questions, but I couldn't tell you exactly because I haven't had a diagnosis of anything. I can only speculate with my own opinions with the things I know or what people say.

I could tell you what paranoid schizophrenia or autism looks like on the outside, but I haven't got a clue if it's me or not if that makes sense.

I want to say that I have suffered and I am over the worst of my losses, and I'm not ashamed to talk about it, you don't have to feel like you have offended me.

I would be happy to answer any question that benefitted us both.

This couldn't be any more real if you asked me

Thanks once again for your consideration

Honestly, I'm getting a little paranoid because I feel that I am being mirrored.

It's just a thought. Perhaps we are of the same breed or perhaps we are of the exact opposite breed. I know enough not to get personal information out here. In any case, I think it is interesting that we seem to be mirroring each other.

In any case, I hope what I said made sense. I keep my distance from people who mirror me based on past experiences but if what I said helped then I am glad it did.

My best friend is a schizophrenic.

Based on my experience, I'd argue that the key difference is affinity with psychosis.

For a schizophrenic, psychosis is common. A schizophrenic perceives psychosis as normal.

For an autistic person, psychosis is very rare. An Autistic person typically has trouble relating with the psychotic mind.

Bi-polar disorder also shares quite a few similarities with autism and schizophrenia. Typical for bi-polar disorder are rather unpredictable shifts between a dysphoric (autistic) and euphoric (psychotic) state of mine.

Some would argue that Autism is to the male brain what psychosis is to the female brain.

Thankyou, this is my exact dilemma.