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Fnord
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09 Apr 2015, 8:25 am

How many Scientologists are on Autism Speaks' board of directors?

Just wondering ...



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09 Apr 2015, 8:40 am

Fnord, you have a good point. A$ advocates the use of the same kind of punishments in ABA (cattle prods or similar, etc) that some Scientologists use (or used) on their "disobedient" followers.



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09 Apr 2015, 5:37 pm

CharityGoodyGrace wrote:
Fnord, you have a good point. A$ advocates the use of the same kind of punishments in ABA (cattle prods or similar, etc) that some Scientologists use (or used) on their "disobedient" followers.



There are ways in which Autism Speaks meets the criteria for a cult, here are some criteria that just sprang to mind:

-charismatic leadership, topdogs whose leadership cannot be challenged in any way by adherents
-a set of fixed and delusionary beliefs that recruited converts must accept and not question
-punishment/explusion of converts who question cult's dogma - "autism is a plague on society to be stamped out"
-solicits large amounts of money from the public sector to further its own causes
-has an "us and them" attitude (if you are not with us, you are against us) and very actively recruits vulnerable parents especially when they are in a vulnerable state of mind
-persecutes people who critique their dogma, threatens lawsuits against critics etc
-spreads false information eg "ABA is the gold standard.." completely acritically, presents rhetoric as factual
-disseminates material with covert recruitment techniques embedded, hypnotic voiceovers - deceptiveness
-aims to spread the cult's influence worldwide and exercise power and control on an international basis
-covertly exploits and targets innocent people in a number of ways
-has a continuous stream of PR spin to aid control of a gullible media
-misuses, misinterprets and misrepresents its ideology by presenting it in a scientific cloak of 'authenticity'
-the cult leaders have strong narcissistic features, clear and pronounced need for narcissistic supply, always
presenting 'a performance', love the stage, the limelight, the centre of attention
-the cult leaders are extremely manipulative (another core feature of narcissism) and lie barefaced - eg"87%"!

Thanks for your inspiration Fnord - perhaps you can add to the list - or anyone else.



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09 Apr 2015, 8:56 pm

Just like the Judge Rotenberg Center is a cult. Well, it is. Just ask Jennifer Msumba, a survivor of the place, and she'll explain it to you.

LOL... I just got another message from the subject of this thread.

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That's a lot of false stuff you are spreading around.. I have dealt with Crom for a long LONG time and I think you need to get your facts straight before spreading lies. You are getting yourself in serious s**t and I no longer have anything else to say to you.. have a great day :)



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09 Apr 2015, 8:58 pm

CharityGoodyGrace wrote:
Just like the Judge Rotenberg Center is a cult. Well, it is. Just ask Jennifer Msumba, a survivor of the place, and she'll explain it to you.

LOL... I just got another message from the subject of this thread.

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That's a lot of false stuff you are spreading around.. I have dealt with Crom for a long LONG time and I think you need to get your facts straight before spreading lies. You are getting yourself in serious s**t and I no longer have anything else to say to you.. have a great day :)


Just like ABA is a cult...



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09 Apr 2015, 9:26 pm

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CharityGoodyGrace wrote:
Just like the Judge Rotenberg Center is a cult. Well, it is. Just ask Jennifer Msumba, a survivor of the place, and she'll explain it to you. LOL... I just got another message from the subject of this thread.
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That's a lot of false stuff you are spreading around.. I have dealt with Crom for a long LONG time and I think you need to get your facts straight before spreading lies. You are getting yourself in serious s**t and I no longer have anything else to say to you.. have a great day :)
Just like ABA is a cult...
This whole lawsuit threat has Scientology written all over it.



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19 Apr 2015, 9:53 am

Autism Speaks will sue for libel I guarantee you this.

They'd rather spend a couple thousand in legal fees than have their rapport busted by a person with ASD.

Be very careful about what one posts about Autism Speaks if it gets enough attention Autism Speaks WILL nail a poster with a lawsuit.

How to avoid libel laws: make sure you have documentable proof on what your saying against Autism Speaks before saying it.

Otherwise you will lose in court and could be down tens of thousands of dollars.

Unfortunately, the poster has a valid concerns.

I am an entrepreneur with ASD who knows some of the law like an attorney does when saying this. Law is a vital part of entrepreneurship and business management.

Don't sue me for giving legal advise without being an attorney PLEASE just trying to help. All the attorneys plain suck so I plan to become my own as a result (but don't need to be an Esq to do this).



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19 Apr 2015, 9:59 am

Autism Speaks prob has full time undercover attorneys working against the young adult ASD community and one of those prob contacted this poster. I'm dead serious about this. Sucks but true. My dream job is running large business(es) like Autism Speaks but wanna lead a large business(es) that help people not like Autism Speaks. I can think in the shoes of Autism Speaks execs as a result. Steve Jobs (Apple founder) reminds me a ton like me from reading about him both his positive and negative sides.



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19 Apr 2015, 10:00 am

Autism Speaks is a well managed business with the aims to badmouth ASD.