Sexism and Orthodox Jews

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New York Times - When a Plane Seat Next to a Woman is Against Orthodox Faith

So Heredim (ultra orthodox Jews) are delaying flights by refusing to sit next to women. Apparently we are so sexually tempting they cannot be close to us.

Women are joining in a "don't give up your seat campaign."

I would find such a request to be against my human rights. If someone's perfume is making you nauseous that's one thing, but to not want to sit next to someone because of who they are is discriminatory.

The New Yorker - Where are Israeli Women?

Why do airlines even cater to these people? If they don't want to sit next to a women/man/whatever, tell them to either sit down or get off the plane. They knew when they bought the ticket there could be *shudder* women on the plane.

Airlines are always going to be uncomfortable unless the passenger can pay for good (or multiple) seats. People need to be prepared to deal with this. The last time I was on an airplane journey, the couple seated next to me sympathetically gave me their drink tickets because of their screaming baby and constant arguing.

Well, that's patriarchal religion for you.

Obviously, Orthodox Judaism is much less westernized than the rest of Judaism, and in fact clings to their ancestral roots in the Middle East.

huzzah - i think i finally know enough hebrew to understand the text in the bus picture in OP's second link -

כי ירושלים היא של כולנו - "because jerusalem is for all of us"

[moved from news to PPR]

"orthodox" is like an umbrella term in that it covers various sects. some being a part of one other sect. "mizrahi" meaning east, from מזרח.

If a guy finds me threatening in the sexual sense then he REALLY needs to seek professional help.

There's modern orthodox and there's ultraorthodox.

People who are modern orthodox are very observant Jews--but they dress "modern" yet conservative. Men wear yamulkes. They mix with others.

Ultraorthodox people tend to dress with black jackets, hats, and accessories based in their sect. They don't mix as much with others.

From a perspective of Human Freedoms, more fully expressed, as GOD given Nature;

the U.S. and other tRuly freeR countries are countries that are the metaphor 'Israel',

as providing a place for truly FREEr children of THAT ALL Natural FREE God of Nature..

Slavery; per the lack of freedom, comes in all colors, many national origins, and

Religions;

AND, the full spectrum

of gender and sexuality as well...

Not wanting to be physically near somebody because of who they are is not acceptable. The request fails the test. It is unreasonable.

I gave the example of requesting a seat change because someone's cologne makes you nauseous. This request would be acceptable because you are physically effected and being made ill. Is the request not to sit next to a woman made because the man is effected sexually by the near proximity to a woman? If so, it is the man who has a problem and he needs to deal with it.