Kuwaiti Prince offers guests Diamond rings as wedding gifts

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19 Apr 2015, 11:23 am

So this what you get when you attend a royal wedding:

http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2015/04 ... ding-gift/


What a total waste of resources.



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19 Apr 2015, 11:33 am

Well, that's what happens when the UN (or was it the League of Nations?) decides to give a family a load of oil.



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19 Apr 2015, 5:03 pm

They could have spent a little more money on a good photographer, pics are pretty bad. Oh well, at least the money spent on these rings is not spent on funding jihadis or fundie mosques as the Gulf states are often accused of doing. Maybe they could spend a little bit of their oil fortune on helping their fellow Arabs like the refugees of Syria and Iraq.

I remember seeing a documentary on one of the small Gulf states, don't remember which one. All the work was done by foreigners while the citizens didn't really work at all. Even the poor people made a shedload of money, the emir or whatever made sure everyone got money and lots of it. Everyone loved the emir (of course they do, he's giving them loads of money).



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20 Apr 2015, 12:47 am

trollcatman wrote:
They could have spent a little more money on a good photographer, pics are pretty bad. Oh well, at least the money spent on these rings is not spent on funding jihadis or fundie mosques as the Gulf states are often accused of doing. Maybe they could spend a little bit of their oil fortune on helping their fellow Arabs like the refugees of Syria and Iraq.

I remember seeing a documentary on one of the small Gulf states, don't remember which one. All the work was done by foreigners while the citizens didn't really work at all. Even the poor people made a shedload of money, the emir or whatever made sure everyone got money and lots of it. Everyone loved the emir (of course they do, he's giving them loads of money).


Ave. net worth of an Emirate citizen $17 million USD.....would you complain about your King?



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20 Apr 2015, 1:32 am

trollcatman wrote:
They could have spent a little more money on a good photographer, pics are pretty bad. Oh well, at least the money spent on these rings is not spent on funding jihadis or fundie mosques as the Gulf states are often accused of doing. Maybe they could spend a little bit of their oil fortune on helping their fellow Arabs like the refugees of Syria and Iraq.

I remember seeing a documentary on one of the small Gulf states, don't remember which one. All the work was done by foreigners while the citizens didn't really work at all. Even the poor people made a shedload of money, the emir or whatever made sure everyone got money and lots of it. Everyone loved the emir (of course they do, he's giving them loads of money).


In Dubai for instance, Engineers of various fields are typically Lebanese, civil engineering in particular is dominated by lebanese, software engineers/programmers are typically Indians.

In Saudi Arabia, math/science teachers are typically Egyptians.

Their locals may be sending their children to study abroad or in local elite international universities, but they often go for Business major more than anything else.



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20 Apr 2015, 3:41 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
They could have spent a little more money on a good photographer, pics are pretty bad. Oh well, at least the money spent on these rings is not spent on funding jihadis or fundie mosques as the Gulf states are often accused of doing. Maybe they could spend a little bit of their oil fortune on helping their fellow Arabs like the refugees of Syria and Iraq.

I remember seeing a documentary on one of the small Gulf states, don't remember which one. All the work was done by foreigners while the citizens didn't really work at all. Even the poor people made a shedload of money, the emir or whatever made sure everyone got money and lots of it. Everyone loved the emir (of course they do, he's giving them loads of money).


In Dubai for instance, Engineers of various fields are typically Lebanese, civil engineering in particular is dominated by lebanese, software engineers/programmers are typically Indians.

In Saudi Arabia, math/science teachers are typically Egyptians.

Their locals may be sending their children to study abroad or in local elite international universities, but they often go for Business major more than anything else.


Makes sense, why would anyone do a difficult education like engineering when you can just learn the business babble and sit on your ass all day? From what I saw a lot of the young men spent their days not working and having fun with their pimped cars, they were doing street races. Another dude was a "fisherman" which meant he sat on his ass while looking at foreigners doing the actual fishing.
The strange problem is that when the borders were drawn in the Middle-east, you got some tiny super wealthy states that happened to have lots of oil, and many larger states that are fairly poor (Yemen is extremely poor, Jordan is not wealthy either, and even Iraq before 2003 was well educated and developed but people still were not wealthy despite the oil). What if the Arab states had not become independent this way, but as part of a federation or union and the oil money would be evenly distributed, then the Arab Federation would be a huge country with big population, lots of money and a very strategic position in international trade. If they had the territory of the old Ummayad Caliphate (minus Iran) they would have double the population of Russia. And nobody f***s with Russia.



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20 Apr 2015, 6:00 am

trollcatman wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
They could have spent a little more money on a good photographer, pics are pretty bad. Oh well, at least the money spent on these rings is not spent on funding jihadis or fundie mosques as the Gulf states are often accused of doing. Maybe they could spend a little bit of their oil fortune on helping their fellow Arabs like the refugees of Syria and Iraq.

I remember seeing a documentary on one of the small Gulf states, don't remember which one. All the work was done by foreigners while the citizens didn't really work at all. Even the poor people made a shedload of money, the emir or whatever made sure everyone got money and lots of it. Everyone loved the emir (of course they do, he's giving them loads of money).


In Dubai for instance, Engineers of various fields are typically Lebanese, civil engineering in particular is dominated by lebanese, software engineers/programmers are typically Indians.

In Saudi Arabia, math/science teachers are typically Egyptians.

Their locals may be sending their children to study abroad or in local elite international universities, but they often go for Business major more than anything else.


Makes sense, why would anyone do a difficult education like engineering when you can just learn the business babble and sit on your ass all day? From what I saw a lot of the young men spent their days not working and having fun with their pimped cars, they were doing street races. Another dude was a "fisherman" which meant he sat on his ass while looking at foreigners doing the actual fishing.
The strange problem is that when the borders were drawn in the Middle-east, you got some tiny super wealthy states that happened to have lots of oil, and many larger states that are fairly poor (Yemen is extremely poor, Jordan is not wealthy either, and even Iraq before 2003 was well educated and developed but people still were not wealthy despite the oil). What if the Arab states had not become independent this way, but as part of a federation or union and the oil money would be evenly distributed, then the Arab Federation would be a huge country with big population, lots of money and a very strategic position in international trade. If they had the territory of the old Ummayad Caliphate (minus Iran) they would have double the population of Russia. And nobody f***s with Russia.



No significant player has interest for Arabs to become a one super nation, especially the Arab rulers themselves. If you own a whole economy in your pocket, why would you share it?



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20 Apr 2015, 7:48 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
No significant player has interest for Arabs to become a one super nation, especially the Arab rulers themselves. If you own a whole economy in your pocket, why would you share it?


The nasty part is that they are more or less kept in power by the foreign powers. The rest of the world would not allow a unification because they would control too much of the oil, one of the reasons why Saddam was kicked out of Kuweit and why suddenly Saudia Arabia became an ally that needed a larger military to be a safeguard against Saddam. Arab League doesn't seem very influential either in grand scheme of things.
Too bad the Arabs were colonised by Europeans and Ottomans during the 19th century. During that time Italian unification was led by Garibaldi, and German unification was largely brought about by Otto von Bismarck. Both of these countries were united under a king from one of the formerly independent states. Germany was even very divided religiously between Protestants and Catholics and a few smaller Christian groups and Von Bismarck still managed to get the people to proclaim the second German Empire (although the first one wasn't really an empire).

This is in Versailles after the Germans beat the French, the German nobles proclaimed Wilhelm emperor. Bismarck in the white suit in the center.


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20 Apr 2015, 8:41 pm

trollcatman wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
They could have spent a little more money on a good photographer, pics are pretty bad. Oh well, at least the money spent on these rings is not spent on funding jihadis or fundie mosques as the Gulf states are often accused of doing. Maybe they could spend a little bit of their oil fortune on helping their fellow Arabs like the refugees of Syria and Iraq.

I remember seeing a documentary on one of the small Gulf states, don't remember which one. All the work was done by foreigners while the citizens didn't really work at all. Even the poor people made a shedload of money, the emir or whatever made sure everyone got money and lots of it. Everyone loved the emir (of course they do, he's giving them loads of money).


In Dubai for instance, Engineers of various fields are typically Lebanese, civil engineering in particular is dominated by lebanese, software engineers/programmers are typically Indians.

In Saudi Arabia, math/science teachers are typically Egyptians.

Their locals may be sending their children to study abroad or in local elite international universities, but they often go for Business major more than anything else.


Makes sense, why would anyone do a difficult education like engineering when you can just learn the business babble and sit on your ass all day? From what I saw a lot of the young men spent their days not working and having fun with their pimped cars, they were doing street races. Another dude was a "fisherman" which meant he sat on his ass while looking at foreigners doing the actual fishing.
The strange problem is that when the borders were drawn in the Middle-east, you got some tiny super wealthy states that happened to have lots of oil, and many larger states that are fairly poor (Yemen is extremely poor, Jordan is not wealthy either, and even Iraq before 2003 was well educated and developed but people still were not wealthy despite the oil).




What if the Arab states had not become independent this way, but as part of a federation or union and the oil money would be evenly distributed, then the Arab Federation would be a huge country with big population, lots of money and a very strategic position in international trade.

:arrow: WTF?!?!?!

The Kings would never allow it to be "evenly distributed", they want insane wealth and to keep their subjects poor or relatively poor.



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18 Sep 2015, 12:16 pm

WOW!!



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18 Sep 2015, 12:49 pm

These rich gulf states are as stale as you can get.

They spend most of their time hanging out in hotels and malls. They are bored s**tless. The have more money that they know what to do with. However it is not from work. They don't have to do anything they are paid a stipend. Their obesity rate is much heigher than most places becuase they have such a seditary lifestyle.

They have no idea how to behave in other countries.

Also talking to people who have worked there. Most of the work gets done by foreign workers, however they are happy to take the credit, yet if something goes wrong it is never their fault. They are one of the last bastion of identured labour, and they treat these people as sub-humans.



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18 Sep 2015, 12:56 pm

That photography is just horrible. I guess they blew their entire budget on the diamond rings, which is hard to believe, considering how cheap it is to hire a good wedding photographer.


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18 Sep 2015, 1:07 pm

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That photography is just horrible. I guess they blew their entire budget on the diamond rings, which is hard to believe, considering how cheap it is to hire a good wedding photographer.


I doubt it a question of money.



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18 Sep 2015, 1:40 pm

alex wrote:
That photography is just horrible. I guess they blew their entire budget on the diamond rings, which is hard to believe, considering how cheap it is to hire a good wedding photographer.


The low quality pics you saw in the article were pics taken by a guest NOT the official wedding Photographer. The Royal family would NEVER have anything less than the best Photog. documenting their wedding. That's not how they roll.



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18 Sep 2015, 4:10 pm

slave wrote:
alex wrote:
That photography is just horrible. I guess they blew their entire budget on the diamond rings, which is hard to believe, considering how cheap it is to hire a good wedding photographer.


The low quality pics you saw in the article were pics taken by a guest NOT the official wedding Photographer. The Royal family would NEVER have anything less than the best Photog. documenting their wedding. That's not how they roll.


Or whoever put the pic there has lowered its res too much - you know, you wouldn't put a raw 10MB picture as is on a web page.



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18 Sep 2015, 6:30 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
slave wrote:
alex wrote:
That photography is just horrible. I guess they blew their entire budget on the diamond rings, which is hard to believe, considering how cheap it is to hire a good wedding photographer.


The low quality pics you saw in the article were pics taken by a guest NOT the official wedding Photographer. The Royal family would NEVER have anything less than the best Photog. documenting their wedding. That's not how they roll.


Or whoever put the pic there has lowered its res too much - you know, you wouldn't put a raw 10MB picture as is on a web page.


good point!
you are prob. spot on.