25 May 2015, 6:57 pm
Sweetleaf
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25 May 2015, 11:18 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
KaylamiYarne wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Oh and my idea I came in this thread to express in the first place...how about they get rid of income tax? and keep the sales tax and/or potentially raise it some to make up for the money lost in getting rid of income tax. Then whenever taxes are paid the person 'chooses' to because its included in the price of merchandise...then would there be less complaining about the fact that welfare is paid for by taxes? If one does not want to contribute they can opt out and not buy things....seems like a good plan.
I love that plan...I was actually going to say exactly what you said here, lol. Why not pay taxes upfront...sure, it would raise the price of goods, but in the end you would essentially be paying the same amount of taxes for everything and it would probably be a huge incentive for people to buy less crap
I'd rather carry a five pound weight on my back every day than a 1825 lb weight every year.
Actually, I would think we'd want people to buy more things, as this is the engine of the economy. And that is best accomplished if people have money in their pockets; hence, either by cheaply priced goods and services, taxation on only those who can comfortably afford it, raising wages, or all of the above.
well people aren't going to not buy things...to avoid taxes most likely, since its less convenient, but then people couldn't complain about a percentage being taken out of their paycheck which might help certain tensions.
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26 May 2015, 5:25 am
Sweetleaf wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
KaylamiYarne wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Oh and my idea I came in this thread to express in the first place...how about they get rid of income tax? and keep the sales tax and/or potentially raise it some to make up for the money lost in getting rid of income tax. Then whenever taxes are paid the person 'chooses' to because its included in the price of merchandise...then would there be less complaining about the fact that welfare is paid for by taxes? If one does not want to contribute they can opt out and not buy things....seems like a good plan.
I love that plan...I was actually going to say exactly what you said here, lol. Why not pay taxes upfront...sure, it would raise the price of goods, but in the end you would essentially be paying the same amount of taxes for everything and it would probably be a huge incentive for people to buy less crap
I'd rather carry a five pound weight on my back every day than a 1825 lb weight every year.
Actually, I would think we'd want people to buy more things, as this is the engine of the economy. And that is best accomplished if people have money in their pockets; hence, either by cheaply priced goods and services, taxation on only those who can comfortably afford it, raising wages, or all of the above.
well people aren't going to not buy things...to avoid taxes most likely, since its less convenient, but then people couldn't complain about a percentage being taken out of their paycheck which might help certain tensions.
People avoid sales tax all the time by buying everything on the internet...
Sales taxes are extremely regressive and they do tend to be a drag on the economy and overburden the poor.
We've been using proportional tax rates, based on wealth, for thousands of years (google servian constitution).
It's a long established principle that those who benefit most from society owe the most back to society.
If you don't want to pay your fair share in taxes you should do the ethical thing and MOVE to a country that doesn't collect taxes.
There are several to choose from in Africa, I think....
