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19 May 2015, 7:46 pm

EDIT: The TL;DR version is under this one. Sorry for the textwall everyone!!


I'm currently looking for material to read and get a better understanding of my son's atypical behavior.

He's nine years old, he does excellent academically. But as he and my two younger children have grown older, I've realized that he's not socially or verbally on the same path as other children. He realizes he's different, and we've been to three different specialists for treatment. But I'm unsatisfied with some of what they're telling me.

The specialists told me he didn't have enough symptoms to be considered ASD, but he just had anxiety. So they referred me to a clinical program that specializes in anxiety.

I went to a different therapist along with the anxiety clinic. The other therapist is the one who told me that he has PDD-NOS, but I think it was just an unofficial diagnosis. I realized that I couldn't do the Anxiety Clinic and this therapist at the same time, the other treatment was a weekly regimen and I decided to postpone the one clinic until we were done with the Anxiety group.

The Anxiety clinic has helped him through anxiety relieving techniques, and we are currently finishing up a PDI/CDI education treatment program to reduce his "meltdowns". He hasn't had a full blown meltdown since January, which is a relief for me, because it use to be more than twice a week over small issues like taking a shower, or what to eat for dinner.


I guess what I'm looking for here is other peoples experiences and input. A lot of my family or friends seem to dismiss my concerns or my desire to find a "label" for him. But I believe that he needs to be understood on a different level than the typical kid because he IS different.

He uses atypically large words for his age and speaks very formally, he doesn't seem to care if he conforms with social standards, he gets teased and bullied a lot, he cries easily-but not over the teasing or the bullying-he cries over caterpillars getting squished, or a teacher changing schools. He gets anxious about thunderstorms and weather, he didn't let me light a candle for years because the fire made him anxious. He didn't go down the "fireman poles" at the playground until he was eight because he was worried about an injury. He made wide circles around fans because when his sister was a baby she put her finger in one once and cried a lot. She put her finger back into it the next week, meanwhile he would have an anxiety freakout over being within six feet of one (this was when he was 4!)

He thinks very creatively, he cares deeply for "underdogs" and worries about small animals and children. (this was another reason the specialists wouldn't give him the ASD diagnosis, because they said he showed too much empathy).

He strangely makes really high pitched shrieking noises for no apparent reason. We'll just get out of the car and he starts to make this high pitched chirp. Sometimes he chirps in a rhythmic sequence. I ask him to stop, but he'll do it again at a later time.

He doesn't play pretend when he's by himself. He'll play pretend with his younger brother who has a vivid imagination, or he'll play with one of my close friend's son. But if they're left to their own devices, he'll often end up the odd one out, folding paper cranes, paper airplanes, or hats while the other kids are playing something else. He'll sometimes play sports with them, and he often takes on the role of announcer while he plays. He announces the moves very analytically while they happen. Two years ago I picked him up from after school care and watched him take a shot, and he caught the ball after he missed the shot, and then he shot it and made it. He came over to me very proud and said, "Mom, that was a rebound. When you catch a ball after a shot is missed, it's called a rebound."

He's just incredibly analytical.

He also refuses to wipe after poops. This is incredibly difficult for all of us, and it's been going on for as long as he's been potty-trained (5-6 years?) I just don't know what to do about it. The Anxiety/behavioral therapists at the clinic have told me to consider this "non-compliant" behavior and start to punish him for it. I haven't started doing that yet. But whenever he smells like poop it further isolates him socially. (obviously, he smells like an outhouse!! !) He has told me he doesn't care. But 1st and 2nd grade were so hard for him when he was bullied more than he is now, that he use to cry when I made him go. He'd beg me to stay home. He told me his stomach hurt and it was so awful. Also, smelling like poop is also not good for him, he constantly has rashes and itchiness. My current solution is either following him into the bathroom when I know he's pooping and forcing him to let me wipe him, or forcing him to shower directly after pooping every time.


I'm a single mother, and my children's father was mentally unhealthy and abused me (physically, verbally, emotionally, financially etc.) I've been out of that marriage for four years now, and I have sole custody of my three kids. When I first started to notice that my son was behaving differently, I immediately blamed my ex and thought it was probably related to his behavioral problems (the specialists also blamed my son's behavior on the fact that he witnessed some of the physical violence in the home before he was 4 years old). However, since researching this more, I believe that I also have a lot of these atypical behaviors. I'm not particularly good at socializing, I have very few friends. I tend to communicate better online or via text than I do in person. I hate talking on the phone, and I struggle to do so with a few of my close family members. I don't show emotion easily, and I have a hard time being "one of the girls". I also accidentally discovered that there's a name for this "echolalia" and "palilalia" that I've done my entire life. In fact, my ex-husband use to mock me for it, and I had no idea I was even doing it. I thought I'd stopped doing it, until my little sister told me that I still do it.

I also do well academically but struggle with simple social encounters. I feel like I always say the wrong thing, or laugh at the wrong times etc. etc.

I'd like to be as good of a mother as I can though.



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19 May 2015, 8:04 pm

also, really sorry for the textwall explanation. I just combed through other intros and they're much much shorter. So here's a TL;DR version:


My son is sort of unofficially diagnosed with PDD-NOS. After researching it, I think I also have had symptoms of ASD my entire life, as well as my father and grandfather being on the spectrum.

I'm a single mum, 30 years old, with three kids. I'm excited to read other peoples experiences so I can better assess and understand my own atypical behaviors, and be a better mother to my children.



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19 May 2015, 8:26 pm

Welcome!

My son (ASD) also refuses to wipe. Drives me crazy. At home, I make him show me his clean bottom. If it isn't clean, he has to stay in the bathroom until it is. I also got him some wet wipes which he prefers. But, it's a totally embarrassing problem (well, I'm embarrassed by it...he isn't...or he probably would have fixed it by now).

I also have to enforce daily that he must flush the toilet. (It's too loud for him...but I make him do it anyway, he's welcome to use headphones.). The shower is too loud, too. ...that I just make him suffer through. :oops:

Wow, I kind of sound like a mean mom. :(

Anyway, welcome!


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I am female, I am married
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19 May 2015, 8:31 pm

screen_name wrote:
Wow, I kind of sound like a mean mom. :(


Cleanliness is next to godliness, as the saying goes. You handle it very well, and should be proud.



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19 May 2015, 9:21 pm

Hey edelweiss welcome. :sunny:


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19 May 2015, 9:27 pm

Screen_name thank you for reading through my textwall and sharing! My son also refuses to flush, and in general isn't very good at self-care. I think I'm similar to this though. My daughter, is only 7, and is far more independent than my son (maybe even me?)

The strange thing is that my son has always been EXTREMELY sensitive to smells. The first time he smelled his sister's dirty diaper when he was only 2, he leaned over and vomited! He continues to vomit almost instantly at any gross smells or gross visuals (snot makes him vomit! Other people's boogers make him vomit!). What might make a typical person a little squeamish, results in a full hurl from him. YET he doesn't care if HE HIMSELF walks around like a regular poop-smell!! ! I don't get how he can't smell it himself.....



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21 May 2015, 2:41 pm

Welcome to Wrong Planet!


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