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25 May 2015, 7:36 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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I am not denying endorphins in the brain. Are you denying the existence of energy? Did you know what you do is because of it? When you fight - it's energy. Love - energy. Hate = energy. Everything you do is because of energy. Every action is backed up by it. No denying it. What you choose to do with it will either make it worse or better.
When you fight, it's adrenaline. Love and hate are states of mind that trigger floods of endorphins.

If I have any energy, it is due to mitochondria in my cells. These structures are sometimes described as "the powerhouse of the cell" because they generate most of the cell's supply of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), used as a source of energy throughout the body.

I believe in energy, but only the energy that can be measured. Adenosine triphosphate is real, measurable, and can be produced in the lab in vast quantities. Same for adrenaline, glucose, caffeine, and other energy-producing stimulants.

What you describe is subjective and fictitious - a fantasy.

Of course, if you can repeatedly demonstrate the practical application of this alleged energy, then I might be willing to believe you.

That's what you want, isn't it? To be believed? Wouldn't you rather be truthful?
Well Fnord, if you are going to deny the existence of energy there's nothing more I can say. Even when you sleep, your body is a source of potential energy. You always have it and it is always with you. Deny all you want it is there and you could not exist without it. Your cells produce it and when they aren't their potential is stored so that counts as energy too. It's your true constant companion in this life.
I am not denying that my body is producing energy. What I am denying is your understanding of it.



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25 May 2015, 7:37 pm

Fnord wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Fnord wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
[...] You do not seem that interested in the various applications of Christos' energy.
I am! Let's see a demonstration!
Are you referring to abracadabra?
No, I'm referring to an actual demonstration of what can happen when this "Christos Energy" is put to use. It's one thing to believe in something, but it's quite another to show it in action.
Oh come on. You know you see it everywhere. It's something that causes you to feel happy you are alive. Take a look around. You will see demonstrations of this energy. Just earlier, I got a free cup of coffee just "because" and I knew Christos. Grace.
No. What makes me happy are endorphins - chemicals in the brain.

I see causal events all around me. Nothing is happening for no apparent reason - no miracles, no mysteries, no signs of divine intervention of any kind.

Everything is perfectly normal. No need for imaginary 'energies' to explain it.


Well; that's an easy one Fnord; there are endorphins; there are adrenaline related neurohormones; there is dopamine; there is serotonin; there is natural occurring DMT; there are all sorts of androgen related hormones; and then there is the synergy of CHI with human relative free will in total focus of positive emotional energy; with no fear baby; at all;
same stuff as this Christos Energy Ana is speaking of; different cultural metaphors; same stuff at essence
of truth, in real flesh and blood stuff.

Well; that's the reason I can leg press 930LBS, 14 times, slowly, with arms raised; all force on legs, on a parallel leg press machine that is about twice as difficult as a vertical sled leg press machine; that steroid heads often struggle to do with their hands pressing their knees. I have the CHI, The Christos, and oh yeah, 'the FORCE FROM Star Wars' mighty strong in me; and when people do call me Legend in real life, and Hero of Dance; it is because of precisely this.

So what have your endorphins done for you lately, in terms of empirical results, in actually doing something with your body that impresses another person, in real flesh and blood connecting life that you can prove.

CHI makes stuff happen baby; it ain't nothing new; but no one, and I do mean no one, leg presses 930 LBS the way I do, in the entire YouTube world of steroid heads; CHI, is all natural all the time; all amazing Force and Christos metaphor of energy too; and there are scores of other metaphors for this much greater all innate, instinctual, and intuitive human potential power found within human being and practiced across cultures.

I just know how to put it into words; more than most, for a wordy explanation down to all the neurohormones and neurochemicals involved in a perfect storm of human potential named CHI, Christos, QI, KI, Force; and yes, again, the list goes on and one for the same essence of truth, in massive human potential more fully realized, like that mustard thingy that the real historical folks report in Gnostic Gospels of Jesus.

Trust me whether or not Magick exists; if you
have the potential for the Placebo effect;
it will do you wonders to believe in
something beyond
what you 'think' is real.
'Thinking' is the problem to begin with.
In REALEST CHI, CHRISTOS, and the 'Star Wars Force; there is no thinking at all;
ONLY DOING; when the flesh and blood hits the real highways of
real life challenge for again, massive human potential more
fully realized..:)


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25 May 2015, 7:42 pm

Ahh ... finally!

The two of you have fun, now!

:lol:



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25 May 2015, 7:50 pm

Fnord wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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I am not denying endorphins in the brain. Are you denying the existence of energy? Did you know what you do is because of it? When you fight - it's energy. Love - energy. Hate = energy. Everything you do is because of energy. Every action is backed up by it. No denying it. What you choose to do with it will either make it worse or better.
When you fight, it's adrenaline. Love and hate are states of mind that trigger floods of endorphins.

If I have any energy, it is due to mitochondria in my cells. These structures are sometimes described as "the powerhouse of the cell" because they generate most of the cell's supply of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), used as a source of energy throughout the body.

I believe in energy, but only the energy that can be measured. Adenosine triphosphate is real, measurable, and can be produced in the lab in vast quantities. Same for adrenaline, glucose, caffeine, and other energy-producing stimulants.

What you describe is subjective and fictitious - a fantasy.

Of course, if you can repeatedly demonstrate the practical application of this alleged energy, then I might be willing to believe you.

That's what you want, isn't it? To be believed? Wouldn't you rather be truthful?
Well Fnord, if you are going to deny the existence of energy there's nothing more I can say. Even when you sleep, your body is a source of potential energy. You always have it and it is always with you. Deny all you want it is there and you could not exist without it. Your cells produce it and when they aren't their potential is stored so that counts as energy too. It's your true constant companion in this life.
I am not denying that my body is producing energy. What I am denying is your understanding of it.

What's there to understand? Your body produces energy and you have choices how to use it. Fnord, I don't understand the arguing. I am being as scientific as I possibly can. I am not saying Christos is a godlike being in the form of a man, rather, a name for an energy state. How is that unscientific? You are free to assign names to your energy states if you so choose. An energy state is just something you do with your energy. It can be constructive, destructive, or both, or it can just be an idle state containing a potential without specific action. Christos state can be very constructive in humanity as it promotes actions that will prolong our lives and allow us to get along with each other.



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25 May 2015, 7:55 pm

Fnord wrote:
Ahh ... finally!

The two of you have fun, now!

:lol:


You kNow, Fnord;

You seem to be a miserable man.

Now to be clear; I could be 'wrong'

but I seriously doubt it; at least for now.

That seems obvious by the way you speak
here; all cynical all the time for anything
more than you personally view in life.

And truly, I hope one day you feel like
someone
Special;

like both
me and
'magic'
Ana..:)

With what
Real Jesus dude
and or Bruce Lee
is really
'feeling'
'about';
Christos
or 'BE
THE Water';
It's all
the same;
Happiness;
Human
Connecting;
And Peace of
Mind and Body
Balance;
All the
time
Now..:)

I don't need an LOL
smilie; 'cause
I have 'real'
'wit'..;)

And HUMAN
POWER
AKA
CHI..:)


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25 May 2015, 8:06 pm

aghogday wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Ahh ... finally!

The two of you have fun, now!

:lol:


You kNow, Fnord;

You seem to be a miserable man.

Now to be clear; I could be 'wrong'

but I seriously doubt it; at least for now.

That seems obvious by the way you speak
here; all cynical all the time for anything
more than you personally view in life.

And truly, I hope one day you feel like
someone
Special;

like both
me and
'magic'
Ana..:)

With what
Real Jesus dude
and or Bruce Lee
is really
'feeling'
'about';
Christos
or 'BE
THE Water';
It's all
the same;
Happiness;
Human
Connecting;
And Peace of
Mind and Body
Balance;
All the
time
Now..:)

I don't need an LOL
smilie; 'cause
I have 'real'
'wit'..;)

And HUMAN
POWER
AKA
CHI..:)


I use colorful language and spiritual license at times, Aghogday, but at heart I am not alluding to magic, rather, energy states. I learn a lot about them from watching Caesar Milan who is so good at discerning them. I became cognizant of them through him. We do engage in energy states and becoming aware of them can only do us good.



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25 May 2015, 8:17 pm

You know Ana; yes, the energy of Christos is real.

And truly with direct conduit with the GOD of Nature
that is truly what I prove on all my blogs; that yes,
IS real, and yes it does make a person more loving;
and yes, this includes Unconditional LOVE;
and Yes, this includes amazing feats
of strength, endurance; and yes,
I will be 55 on June 6th, and
I am stronger, and healthier
than I am, when I am 21;
and I can prove in
photos that now
at age 55, I look
years younger
than I do
at
age
40.

And in fact; until
I tell folks I am old as
their 'grandaddies' where
I dance; they see me
as just another
dancing
peer;

How many men at
age 55, NOW, can do
all of what I
do;
IRREFUTABLY
EVIDENCED
ON MY
BLOG;

NONE;
on Google
searchable
records;

Yes,
this Christos
Energy is the
most powerful
all natural human
synergy of energy
anywhere in this
world we live
in.

And I for one prove
it everywhere I go;
so folks who are
hoping 'someone'
with it; will 'come
back'; will get to
actually see
it for real;
for the
FIRST
TIME
EVER,
perhaps.

IT just
doesn't
get
any better,
in the human
Universe than
this; at least
for
me..:)

Biggest SMILES..:)

And the best thing of
all is most everyone
has the potential;
But the God of
Nature is a GOD
of Merit;
there ain't
no free rides
or annointing
from above in
this life; it's
all about hearing
the 'call of the wild'
that is GOD and
acting on all
natural innate
instinct and
intuitive
ways
of
KNOWING
AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY
FEELING IT ALL..:)


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25 May 2015, 8:20 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Ahh ... finally!

The two of you have fun, now!

:lol:


You kNow, Fnord;

You seem to be a miserable man.

Now to be clear; I could be 'wrong'

but I seriously doubt it; at least for now.

That seems obvious by the way you speak
here; all cynical all the time for anything
more than you personally view in life.

And truly, I hope one day you feel like
someone
Special;

like both
me and
'magic'
Ana..:)

With what
Real Jesus dude
and or Bruce Lee
is really
'feeling'
'about';
Christos
or 'BE
THE Water';
It's all
the same;
Happiness;
Human
Connecting;
And Peace of
Mind and Body
Balance;
All the
time
Now..:)

I don't need an LOL
smilie; 'cause
I have 'real'
'wit'..;)

And HUMAN
POWER
AKA
CHI..:)


I use colorful language and spiritual license at times, Aghogday, but at heart I am not alluding to magic, rather, energy states. I learn a lot about them from watching Caesar Milan who is so good at discerning them. I became cognizant of them through him. We do engage in energy states and becoming aware of them can only do us good.


Neither do I.
That is why i put 'magic' in quotes, as metaphor
for above what is normally seen in life;
but yes, all natural, as I do realize
you see it too; clearly from
observing
your
communication here..:)


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25 May 2015, 8:33 pm

aghogday wrote:
You know Ana; yes, the energy of Christos is real.

And truly with direct conduit with the GOD of Nature
that is truly what I prove on all my blogs; that yes,
IS real, and yes it does make a person more loving;
and yes, this includes Unconditional LOVE;
and Yes, this includes amazing feats
of strength, endurance; and yes,
I will be 55 on June 6th, and
I am stronger, and healthier
than I am, when I am 21;
and I can prove in
photos that now
at age 55, I look
years younger
than I do
at
age
40.

And in fact; until
I tell folks I am old as
their 'grandaddies' where
I dance; they see me
as just another
dancing
peer;

How many men at
age 55, NOW, can do
all of what I
do;
IRREFUTABLY
EVIDENCED
ON MY
BLOG;

NONE;
on Google
searchable
records;

Yes,
this Christos
Energy is the
most powerful
all natural human
synergy of energy
anywhere in this
world we live
in.

And I for one prove
it everywhere I go;
so folks who are
hoping 'someone'
with it; will 'come
back'; will get to
actually see
it for real;
for the
FIRST
TIME
EVER,
perhaps.

IT just
doesn't
get
any better,
in the human
Universe than
this; at least
for
me..:)

Biggest SMILES..:)

And the best thing of
all is most everyone
has the potential;
But the God of
Nature is a GOD
of Merit;
there ain't
no free rides
or annointing
from above in
this life; it's
all about hearing
the 'call of the wild'
that is GOD and
acting on all
natural innate
instinct and
intuitive
ways
of
KNOWING
AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY
FEELING IT ALL..:)


I can see His energy in your life and you are a great example of what I am talking about with Christos. Why is it people are so resistant? He is nobody's enemy. People do try to turn him into one but He truly isn't. Some of his own followers try to use him to alienate but they are far removed from his purpose when they do. His energy is a great ally. We cannot let this world warp our understanding.

We ask ourselves, why does this particular energy have a name? Why does any? The key is greater self awareness.



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25 May 2015, 8:58 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
aghogday wrote:
You know Ana; yes, the energy of Christos is real.

And truly with direct conduit with the GOD of Nature
that is truly what I prove on all my blogs; that yes,
IS real, and yes it does make a person more loving;
and yes, this includes Unconditional LOVE;
and Yes, this includes amazing feats
of strength, endurance; and yes,
I will be 55 on June 6th, and
I am stronger, and healthier
than I am, when I am 21;
and I can prove in
photos that now
at age 55, I look
years younger
than I do
at
age
40.

And in fact; until
I tell folks I am old as
their 'grandaddies' where
I dance; they see me
as just another
dancing
peer;

How many men at
age 55, NOW, can do
all of what I
do;
IRREFUTABLY
EVIDENCED
ON MY
BLOG;

NONE;
on Google
searchable
records;

Yes,
this Christos
Energy is the
most powerful
all natural human
synergy of energy
anywhere in this
world we live
in.

And I for one prove
it everywhere I go;
so folks who are
hoping 'someone'
with it; will 'come
back'; will get to
actually see
it for real;
for the
FIRST
TIME
EVER,
perhaps.

IT just
doesn't
get
any better,
in the human
Universe than
this; at least
for
me..:)

Biggest SMILES..:)

And the best thing of
all is most everyone
has the potential;
But the God of
Nature is a GOD
of Merit;
there ain't
no free rides
or annointing
from above in
this life; it's
all about hearing
the 'call of the wild'
that is GOD and
acting on all
natural innate
instinct and
intuitive
ways
of
KNOWING
AND MOST
IMPORTANTLY
FEELING IT ALL..:)


I can see His energy in your life and you are a great example of what I am talking about with Christos. Why is it people are so resistant? He is nobody's enemy. People do try to turn him into one but He truly isn't. Some of his own followers try to use him to alienate but they are far removed from his purpose when they do. His energy is a great ally. We cannot let this world warp our understanding.

We ask ourselves, why does this particular energy have a name? Why does any? The key is greater self awareness.


Thank you Ana; for your recognition of that.

Words are just metaphors for lie or truth.

The essence is what is real.

The 'Christos' energy is real.

I let actions speak
much louder than
words, alone;
smiles.

I am
much
more
'impressive'
in real life,
friend;
as people
can FEEL
'the energy'
from 'me';
just by being
near 'me'; by their
words; not mine..:)

The first step in helping people;
is to see the potential in action.

Cynics rule the world, still.
And in reality, in flesh and
blood; rules, in general,
are cynical; to be
free is to be
free of rules;
except
following
all local, state,
and federal laws;
per the metaphor
of giving what
is 'Caesar his';
as going to
Jail is of course
not Freedom; the
path for freedom
is laid down by the
'Memorial Days of
Bones of Sacrifice;
we stand upon;
like the article
for Memorial
Day you
link
states
friend..:)

Life is Messy;
and Good..:)

AND amazing with
the 'Christos Energy'
SHINING BRIGHTLY
WITHIN, outside,
above so
below;
and
all around
in Golden Spiral
PHI Flow for NOW..;)


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26 May 2015, 5:57 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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I see that you have added to the text by anticipating an overly harsh penalty when none is indicated. It does not get much worse than stoning and you also ignore that Jesus was looking for the other guilty party.

You are justifying your position. Not a good thing to do.

Your definition of judge is foolish. No one judges that way.

Regards
DL


Oh but plenty do judge that way. Why do you think people want the death penalty? I am anti death penalty because it goes against what I believe Christos stands for which is for people to not be consumed by their lower desires. He wishes for us not to be consumed by the evil of this world. He tries to show us ways to make the evil less evil. One way is mercy. Another is grace.


Mercy has a meaning. Grace is a garbage term that means nothing.

You might want to stop using it.

Regards
DL



Welp, no more arguing with you. You do not seem that interested in the various applications of Christos' energy.


Correct.

Because it is more stupid Christian supernatural based B.S. than Gnostic Christian intelligent theology based on reality and Gnosis.

You seek out there when Jesus tells you to seek within.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Regards
DL

Regards
DL



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26 May 2015, 6:06 am

aghogday wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Ahh ... finally!

The two of you have fun, now!

:lol:


You kNow, Fnord;

You seem to be a miserable man.

Now to be clear; I could be 'wrong'

but I seriously doubt it; at least for now.

That seems obvious by the way you speak
here; all cynical all the time for anything
more than you personally view in life.

And truly, I hope one day you feel like
someone
Special;
:)


Disingenuous to the point of ignorance.

Our friend had a legitimate request for a demonstration of a stated claim of energy where the claimant had a moral duty to prove his case and you jerks start to denigrate him it.

Nice work boys, --- in showing your lack of morality and couth.

Regards
DL



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26 May 2015, 6:36 am

GnosticBishop wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Ahh ... finally!

The two of you have fun, now!

:lol:


You kNow, Fnord;

You seem to be a miserable man.

Now to be clear; I could be 'wrong'

but I seriously doubt it; at least for now.

That seems obvious by the way you speak
here; all cynical all the time for anything
more than you personally view in life.

And truly, I hope one day you feel like
someone
Special;
:)


Disingenuous to the point of ignorance.

Our friend had a legitimate request for a demonstration of a stated claim of energy where the claimant had a moral duty to prove his case and you jerks start to denigrate him it.

Nice work boys, --- in showing your lack of morality and couth.

Regards
DL


Quite frankly that's between me and Fnord and has little to do with his conversation here, alone.

In other words, there is much more context to that statement than what currently exists in your 'jumping to conclusions universe', in your narrow view, specific to this context.

'Capice'...

You try to impose your will on others here; that doesn't work with me, at all.

There is no use in trying; but waste your time as you like...


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