28 May 2015, 10:38 am
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
The evidence of the fact that Jesus taught that we live in the kingdom of God should open your eyes to it but that is what see from my view and I should try harder to see it from your inferior view. Just kidding this time.
You are correct that we should show more uniformity and fellowship. I am just so used to fighting literalism because of the evil I see in it that I do a knee jerk reaction to it. Especially when I see someone like you with such potential. My bad.
I use the words evolving perfection because when I think of this concept I look at the same thing at all points in time of it's existence.
I begin the logic trail by looking at creation, be it from nature which I believe, or from a God which I do not.
All life is produced for the best possible end. If you have children, you will confirm that you tried to start them off towards the best possible end. Nothing and no one creates anything for a poor end. Hence this quote.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”
Having said that, think of yourself, flaws and all, kidding again but serious as well, in the first hour when you were born. Whatever you were, you were created as perfect as your DNA and environment could produce. Life would have it no other way. That you I call perfect. The next hour you moved from that perfection to a more perfect baby that learned to reach for the tit. You evolved your initial perfect self to a new perfect condition. That progression never stops and so we can say that you are always perfect, even if you have flaws, at all points in time.
Candid, the play, states it as we are always living in the best of all possible worlds, because this is the only possible world. The same can be said for you. You are the best you can be because you are the only you that you can possibly be. I, instead of using best possible over time, use the term evolving perfection.
This is not an easy concept to grasp, especially with me using the term evolving perfection. Most are used to using the word perfect as a finished and stagnant non-evolving form. If you have a tough time with it just think good moving to better all the time. You are always the best you can ever be. That does not mean that you cannot improve. You can but even as you improve, you are still the best you can be at any given point in time.
Regards
DL
You are correct that we should show more uniformity and fellowship. I am just so used to fighting literalism because of the evil I see in it that I do a knee jerk reaction to it. Especially when I see someone like you with such potential. My bad.
I use the words evolving perfection because when I think of this concept I look at the same thing at all points in time of it's existence.
I begin the logic trail by looking at creation, be it from nature which I believe, or from a God which I do not.
All life is produced for the best possible end. If you have children, you will confirm that you tried to start them off towards the best possible end. Nothing and no one creates anything for a poor end. Hence this quote.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”
Having said that, think of yourself, flaws and all, kidding again but serious as well, in the first hour when you were born. Whatever you were, you were created as perfect as your DNA and environment could produce. Life would have it no other way. That you I call perfect. The next hour you moved from that perfection to a more perfect baby that learned to reach for the tit. You evolved your initial perfect self to a new perfect condition. That progression never stops and so we can say that you are always perfect, even if you have flaws, at all points in time.
Candid, the play, states it as we are always living in the best of all possible worlds, because this is the only possible world. The same can be said for you. You are the best you can be because you are the only you that you can possibly be. I, instead of using best possible over time, use the term evolving perfection.
This is not an easy concept to grasp, especially with me using the term evolving perfection. Most are used to using the word perfect as a finished and stagnant non-evolving form. If you have a tough time with it just think good moving to better all the time. You are always the best you can ever be. That does not mean that you cannot improve. You can but even as you improve, you are still the best you can be at any given point in time.
Regards
DL
In that case, since I am the best that I can be at any point in time, you shouldn't be critical of me because you just said I am my best, non? You should revere my words since I am at my best at any point in time, right? And agree with me!
That is not how it goes as I am also the best I can be and that might be better than you till you win whatever debate we are having.
Your perfection is evolving all the time but is subject to what you learn, just as my evolving is subject to what you teach that I learn.
Your best may not be as good as my best or vice versa.
That aside, did you understand and agree with the concept.
Is this quote true?
Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”
Regards
DL
28 May 2015, 10:42 am
28 May 2015, 10:49 am
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
In that case, since I am the best that I can be at any point in time, you shouldn't be critical of me because you just said I am my best, non? You should revere my words since I am at my best at any point in time, right? And agree with me!
Just kidding here.
https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/video ... cafee&tt=b
If you disagree then ---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co5r9Q_BKEU
Regards
DL
28 May 2015, 12:14 pm
GnosticBishop wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Oops, oh, my goodness; I forget to answer the question.
There are elements of reason and myth in the bible.
But the overall truth is, the bible is a work of art coming
from the creative mind of human beings; per free verse
poetic expressions in parables, psalms, and such as that.
This creative mind that generally speaking is the 'right
brain' is more related to social cognition activities,
including cognitive and affective empathy,
music, and yes, art in general; as well
as connecting in sensual
ways of human
connection.
Unfortunately, in modern societies
as culture becomes more of a 'left
brained' way of mechanical cognition;
the development of the art of mind is
failing among the general populaces as humans
become more like machines than the balanced
connecting works of art they are overall evolved
to be. The overall result of this is humans are no
longer creating new ways of looking at the world in
artful ways of being. Instead, the words of others becomes
gold; including the works of art in the past; like the bible
in all its gold and tainted human art of life. That's a real
problem being stuck in the past; whether it is the bible, science,
or even the strangest of pagan and or occult beliefs. Truly Aleister
Crowley gets one thing correct. Human relative free will with LOVE
in do as thou wilt; instead of following the rules of times gone past,
is the way of true freedom of human expression. I thrive as I do not
limit my learning to any avenue; any TYPE of person; per standard IQ
or anything else. This world is big and everyone has something worth
while to say; for those who listen, learn, and do learn something, at
least, from the greatest to the least; where the meek often
have the greatest lessons of all to learn
about a simple life
of LOVE and
HUMAN RELATIVE
FREE WILL IN MIND
AND BODY
BALANCE;
like the other
really smart
animals who
live this
way.
The rest of it; most of it
anyway; as far as intellectual
pursuits; is mental masturbation
by the time the game of love is over
for the time
being
now
in human
relative free
WILL.
But yeah
'THAT'S FUN TOO..
People will not
STOP that either..
There are elements of reason and myth in the bible.
But the overall truth is, the bible is a work of art coming
from the creative mind of human beings; per free verse
poetic expressions in parables, psalms, and such as that.
This creative mind that generally speaking is the 'right
brain' is more related to social cognition activities,
including cognitive and affective empathy,
music, and yes, art in general; as well
as connecting in sensual
ways of human
connection.
Unfortunately, in modern societies
as culture becomes more of a 'left
brained' way of mechanical cognition;
the development of the art of mind is
failing among the general populaces as humans
become more like machines than the balanced
connecting works of art they are overall evolved
to be. The overall result of this is humans are no
longer creating new ways of looking at the world in
artful ways of being. Instead, the words of others becomes
gold; including the works of art in the past; like the bible
in all its gold and tainted human art of life. That's a real
problem being stuck in the past; whether it is the bible, science,
or even the strangest of pagan and or occult beliefs. Truly Aleister
Crowley gets one thing correct. Human relative free will with LOVE
in do as thou wilt; instead of following the rules of times gone past,
is the way of true freedom of human expression. I thrive as I do not
limit my learning to any avenue; any TYPE of person; per standard IQ
or anything else. This world is big and everyone has something worth
while to say; for those who listen, learn, and do learn something, at
least, from the greatest to the least; where the meek often
have the greatest lessons of all to learn
about a simple life
of LOVE and
HUMAN RELATIVE
FREE WILL IN MIND
AND BODY
BALANCE;
like the other
really smart
animals who
live this
way.
The rest of it; most of it
anyway; as far as intellectual
pursuits; is mental masturbation
by the time the game of love is over
for the time
being
now
in human
relative free
WILL.
But yeah
'THAT'S FUN TOO..
People will not
STOP that either..
Some of this makes sense but your mental masturbation is a turn off.
You have been told this by a number of us.
Regards
DL
Dude, in the much bigger world it is a turn on; as over 1.1 million views
on my Google plus page attest two in just two years. And with
literally thousands by the day increasing; astronomically in proportion.
Satisfied folks do not complain. And the naysayers are just too miserable
in their own life to tolerate and accept differences in others, most often.
I do not give a crap what negative stuff
you think and express about my freedom of expression.
It is free. And free is the ultimate truth of human.
Cannot you come to any conversation without arrogance.
I think not; so far in my 'objective
analysis' of your communication.
But I will still defend your freedom of expression to death.
Regards are not enough, while you talk a big religious talk;
your humanity, rarely, if ever shines through your
words...
And that's where you can use some improvement
my friend, on emotional expression, rather than
'dead language', with little to no metaphor
for humanity. Just repeating stuff folks
talk about 2k years ago or so,
is a 'robotic' way
of
life.
And will inspire absolutely NO ONE;
In the real flesh and blood world.
In the REAL FLESH AND BLOOD
world I inspire folks to
the tune
of thousands a day
for the ultimate
truth of freedom
of human
expression;
as God evolves
human to be for NOW.
All the rest of this
IS MENTAL masturbation.
Only heart inspires.
Words are nothing,
without that.
And human soul
and spirit,
of course.
Gnostic is just an
empty word of
nothing without
human soul,
heart, and
spirit fully
expressed.
If the real gnostic Jesus dude;
the zealous one who is all
for war and violence
to institute change
does not understand
that; he is likely
a psychopathic
leaning dude;
not unlike
Aleister
Crowley,
per insights
vs. compassion of the human
soul, and heart, expressed in spirit.
Thanks GOD; at least modern Christianity
creates a Jesus that has a warm
heart; disagreeing with parents
is one thing; but hating
them to follow 'a Jesus'
is just
BS, too.
The gnostic gospels are full of insights;
but yes; just like the New Testament and OT;
they are full of BS, too; away from
the truth of nature and humankind,
as a socially cooperating animal
with unconditional tough love;
and compassion
to make survival
real; not unlike
a wolf in the
wild for
survival;
many of which are
kinder than human
beings on this
website, and
the rest
of 'online'
for sure;
Where
lesser
humans
than wolves
do 'thread'...
I identify it;
talk about it
and propose
solutions for
it; without
either the need
for violence or war.
That makes me heads
above most of the
folks other
than Buddha
who come before
me; as most others
are all for war for change.
One cannot instill change
of heart with either violence,
war, or arrogance against tolerance
and acceptance in freedom of
expression for all others.
Just limit it to the topic at hand,
if you can, instead of
getting personal;
or yes; I will
call you
out on it;
as I do believe
you have more
potential in expressing
your humanity and actually
inspiring folks; my friend..
Otherwise, I would not
make you worth
any of
my valuable
time and effort, here.
But yes, I can use
it as lessons; elsewhere;
for others to peruse
among the 1.1. million..
no matter; your acceptance of
the suggestions and advice.
28 May 2015, 1:18 pm
28 May 2015, 1:28 pm
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
In that case, since I am the best that I can be at any point in time, you shouldn't be critical of me because you just said I am my best, non? You should revere my words since I am at my best at any point in time, right? And agree with me!
Just kidding here.
https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/video ... cafee&tt=b
If you disagree then ---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co5r9Q_BKEU
Regards
DL
Clever, clever
28 May 2015, 1:44 pm
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
In that case, since I am the best that I can be at any point in time, you shouldn't be critical of me because you just said I am my best, non? You should revere my words since I am at my best at any point in time, right? And agree with me!
Just kidding here.
https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/video ... cafee&tt=b
If you disagree then ---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co5r9Q_BKEU
Regards
DL
Clever, clever
I am a serious type but do like to try a bit of humor on occasion.
I am pleased you took it as meant.
I sometimes miss the mark. My humor does that sometimes.
Regards
DL
28 May 2015, 1:49 pm
GnosticBishop wrote:
aghogday wrote:
[.
I did not read this long winded garbage but I have to wonder about a mind that seek quantity over quality.
Regards
DL
Your words
do not
speak
volumes;
My friend.
But there is
always room
for improvement.
Now, I see some of 'that'.
Change comes with work.
I for one; make 'stuff' happen..
28 May 2015, 2:06 pm
aghogday wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
aghogday wrote:
[.
I did not read this long winded garbage but I have to wonder about a mind that seek quantity over quality.
Regards
DL
Your words
do not
speak
volumes;
My friend.
But there is
always room
for improvement.
Now, I see some of 'that'.
Change comes with work.
I for one; make 'stuff' happen..
Masturbation usually does but any sexual activity is more fun when there are two.
Regards
DL
28 May 2015, 2:08 pm
GnosticBishop wrote:
aghogday wrote:
GnosticBishop wrote:
aghogday wrote:
[.
I did not read this long winded garbage but I have to wonder about a mind that seek quantity over quality.
Regards
DL
Your words
do not
speak
volumes;
My friend.
But there is
always room
for improvement.
Now, I see some of 'that'.
Change comes with work.
I for one; make 'stuff' happen..
Masturbation usually does but any sexual activity is more fun when there are two.
Regards
DL
Well friend, as far as my writing; I do have over 1.1 million
participants other than me.
And yes, I can prove that; or you can by going to Kate Mia
on Google plus to see the count.
And Google plus sources are only a FRACTION
of what I do.
I use my human potential friend; to
the
MAX.
31 May 2015, 11:17 pm
It's a piece of mythical crap; a fairy tale.
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04 Jun 2015, 8:40 am
