Barack Obama's brilliant speech regarding race in America

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18 Mar 2008, 9:39 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU

His full speech is very impressive, but it's fairly long, at 37:39.



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18 Mar 2008, 10:25 pm

Obama's been going to hate rallies for 20yrs.

He should withdraw from the race for president, & resign from the US Senate.



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19 Mar 2008, 12:07 am

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Obama's been going to hate rallies for 20yrs.

He should withdraw from the race for president, & resign from the US Senate.


Or switch political parties.

Someone should tell all the White people at the Rev. Wrights congregation that he is racist.

Man, all those people must be stupid. No way a Black guy can be president, because all the Black churches say things that are racist against us poor whites.



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19 Mar 2008, 2:30 am

ja wrote:
Obama's been going to hate rallies for 20yrs.

He should withdraw from the race for president, & resign from the US Senate.
In a country where the Clinton News Network, Dan Blather and the New York Times et al were not working in collusion to promulgate a Socialist Utopia this would be possible. But if the Organs ever did report anything close to the truth, then those times are long gone. Imagine what the "news" media stress level will be at should the Supreme Court determine that the 2nd Amendment applies to the People as opposed to the National Guard ( established 1903 ). 8O



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19 Mar 2008, 6:04 am

Switch political parties, ey?

Obama is a racist & a liar. He follows a preacher who hates America, & hates whites. 'Rev.' Wright married the Obamas, & baptized their daughters.

The title of Sen. Obama's book 'THE AUDACITY OF HOPE' was lifted from a 'Rev.' Wright 'sermon/hate speech'.

Michelle Obama speaks the same language as 'Rev.' Wright.

The only reason why Obama is trying to 'distance himself from 'Rev.' Wright is because white voters & the US military found out that Obama has been attending anti-American hate rallies for 20yrs.

He's lying about 'not being there' when 'Rev.' Wright delivered the anti-American hate-filled bullcrap on the Sunday after 9/11. CAN YOU THINK OF ONE PERSON IN THE COUNTRY THAT DIDN'T GO TO CHURCH THE SUNDAY AFTER TUESDAY's 9/11 ATTACKS?

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THE OBAMAS PUMPING THEIR FISTS IN 'UNIFYING' AGREEMENT w/the a**hole 'Rev.' Wright.

The possibility of seeing 'Rev.' Wright and Louis Farrakhan in the Obama's 'friends box' on Inauguration Day in January 2009 makes me fuggin' sick.

In 2008, YOU DON'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT A DIVISIVE ISSUE LIKE 'RACE' >>

THERE WOULD BE NO AMERICAN DREAM WITHOUT THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN.



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19 Mar 2008, 9:26 am

Would it be possible for ja's commentary here to be regarded as political spam? It has no intellectual merit to it, as far as I can tell. It is more of a libel than an actual criticism.



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19 Mar 2008, 9:55 am

I don't know that I would regard it as political spam - there's very little of the political about it. Not a mention of Sen. Obama's political views, nor those of the Democratic Party in general. Merely a spate of racist hatemongering. (And is it coincidence that this would appear to be a fairly new member, whose name is German for "yes"?)

Oh, BTW, ja, in answer to your supposedly rhetorical question, I can think of quite a few people who didn't go to church the Sunday after 9/11. Me, for one - I was away from my regular church (as was Obama, come to think of it - he was in fracking Springfield, a pretty fair distance from Chicago, as he was in the Illinois legislature at the time) and knew I didn't want to hear the dweeb at my sister-in-law's favorite church rattling on. A large number of Jews, Mormons, Seventh-Day Adventists, Islamics, and athiests, for another.

Now velodog's post, silly as it is, is at least vaguely political...


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19 Mar 2008, 10:24 am

Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter and voices them with great skill. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush. And Bush would probably be the first to admit that, with a chuckle, if he already hasn't.
But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|

Excerpt from yesterday's speech:

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Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence, and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love, and, yes, the bitterness and biases that make up the black experience in America.

What the ----? In other words, "Feeeeeeeeel the guilt, White America. Blacks hate living in this country."


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19 Mar 2008, 11:17 am

Ragtime wrote:
Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush, and Bush would probably be the first to admit that, if he already hasn't. But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|
Obama is a people person, not a thinking person. I've really said this from the beginning. He is very skilled at working effectively with his staff, and this is an important reason for my support of his candidacy. He's a good team player.



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19 Mar 2008, 11:19 am

Griff wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush, and Bush would probably be the first to admit that, if he already hasn't. But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|
Obama is a people person, not a thinking person. I've really said this from the beginning. He is very skilled at working effectively with his staff, and this is an important reason for my support of his candidacy. He's a good team player.


How do we know how he works with his staff? :? Clinton doesn't work as well with hers?


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19 Mar 2008, 11:22 am

Ragtime wrote:
Griff wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush, and Bush would probably be the first to admit that, if he already hasn't. But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|
Obama is a people person, not a thinking person. I've really said this from the beginning. He is very skilled at working effectively with his staff, and this is an important reason for my support of his candidacy. He's a good team player.


How do we know how he works with his staff? :? Clinton doesn't work as well with hers?
Oh, she's a genius at it. However, I have never gotten along well with the Clintons, and I don't want to be forced to buy health coverage.



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19 Mar 2008, 2:27 pm

Griff wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Griff wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush, and Bush would probably be the first to admit that, if he already hasn't. But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|
Obama is a people person, not a thinking person. I've really said this from the beginning. He is very skilled at working effectively with his staff, and this is an important reason for my support of his candidacy. He's a good team player.


How do we know how he works with his staff? :? Clinton doesn't work as well with hers?
Oh, she's a genius at it. However, I have never gotten along well with the Clintons, and I don't want to be forced to buy health coverage.


Are you saying that under Obama, we'll have more free choice among healthcare providers? Obama is even further left than Clinton is, and individual freedom above goverment rule has always been the antithesis of what the far left promotes.


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19 Mar 2008, 2:28 pm

Griff wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush, and Bush would probably be the first to admit that, if he already hasn't. But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|
Obama is a people person, not a thinking person. I've really said this from the beginning. He is very skilled at working effectively with his staff, and this is an important reason for my support of his candidacy. He's a good team player.
Having someone who can think about situations rather than muddle their way through on "feelings" would be a good idea. Jimmy Carter appeared reluctant to deal with any situations that could lead to him having to answer hard questions. He actively undermined the Shah of Iran, which led directly to the Islamic Republic being formed. Tha situation, in turn led to our Embassy being taken over. Carters total lack of cojones and willingly playing the role of Charlie Brown in the negotiations with Iran was ridiculous. Those negotiations were in fact, just a parody of the running joke in the Peanuts comic strip where Lucy repeatedly assures Charlie that she will hold the football for him to kick. He always tried to kick the ball and got frustrated every time he ended up on his back looking at the sky. The Soviets were so impressed with this total lack of Presidential skills that they decided that the time had come to realize their decades long ambition to invade Afghanistan. George Bush Senior, on the other hand, was very willing to kick peoples asses. He was so willing to do so that one of his State Dept employees "inadvertently" gave the go ahead to Iraq to press their 26th Province initiative and invade Kuwait. Oops! I recall in the early 90's before we got an easy victory over Iraq that people were not that enthused with the war. It was only in the wake of a relatively easy victory that I heard anyone get hawkish about "We shoulda gone all the way to Bagdad. Why the hell did we stop?" Well, gee I don't know? Maybe because the goal of the Resolution brought before the United Abominations that created the coalition had been achieved. So between Carter having no balls and Bush Sr having an over riding ambition, between the two of them, they set up a lot of the current instability in the Middle East. I do see parallels in their personalities of the "feeler" Obama and the cut throats Hilary and John, neither of whom in my opinion have any scruples. I'm voting 3rd Party just so I won't have any of these three individuals on my conscience.



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19 Mar 2008, 2:43 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Obama's best presidential skill is oration. Axelrod writes these soaringly dramatic speeches about American unity, which don't sound anything like Obama when he's interviewed, and then Obama reads those speeches from the teleprompter and voices them with great skill. [Insert swooning]
But whenever Barack doesn't have his trustee teleprompter, he's the cure for insomnia. "Um, we have to, um, pull together as a nation, um, and we, uh, need to remember our history, ah, and of course hope in, ah, the future..." ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

I will give him one thing: He pronounces words better than George W. Bush. And Bush would probably be the first to admit that, with a chuckle, if he already hasn't.
But, see, I want more than a president who can read well from a teleprompter. Reading is a good skill. But still, I find myself wanting more. :|
Many people are more convincing reading written words than speaking impromptu. The best way to choose a candidate is to look at their political history and the plans which they have presented for their time in office.

According to Marc Ambinder*, Obama wrote the speech by himself.

*Marc Ambinder's bio says "Marc is an associate editor at the Atlantic and a contributing editor to both the Hotline and National Journal, and was, in late 2007, named chief political consultant to CBS News".



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19 Mar 2008, 2:47 pm

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Are you saying that under Obama, we'll have more free choice among healthcare providers? Obama is even further left than Clinton is, and individual freedom above goverment rule has always been the antithesis of what the far left promotes.
You may as well be telling me his astrological sign.



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19 Mar 2008, 3:12 pm

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I don't know that I would regard it as political spam - there's very little of the political about it. Not a mention of Sen. Obama's political views, nor those of the Democratic Party in general. Merely a spate of racist hatemongering. (And is it coincidence that this would appear to be a fairly new member, whose name is German for "yes"?)

Oh, BTW, ja, in answer to your supposedly rhetorical question, I can think of quite a few people who didn't go to church the Sunday after 9/11. Me, for one - I was away from my regular church (as was Obama, come to think of it - he was in fracking Springfield, a pretty fair distance from Chicago, as he was in the Illinois legislature at the time) and knew I didn't want to hear the dweeb at my sister-in-law's favorite church rattling on. A large number of Jews, Mormons, Seventh-Day Adventists, Islamics, and athiests, for another.

Now velodog's post, silly as it is, is at least vaguely political...
Mormons actually do attend Services on Sunday.