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28 Feb 2011, 6:57 pm

Best Jobs:
Scientist--Apies are smart and a lot of Aspies love science; not much socialization involved.
Musician, writer, artist--not much socializing or talking, unless you get famous.

Worst Jobs:
Professional athlete--very few Aspies are highly athletic.
Teacher--tons of talking.
Talk-show host--so much talking and socializing!
Cashier--lots of talking, requires organization.



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01 Mar 2011, 2:52 pm

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Here is an excellent list which includes bad and good jobs:

Table 1 Bad Jobs for People with High Functioning Autism or Asperger's Syndrome: Jobs that require high demands on short-term working memory

Cashier -- making change quickly puts too much demand on short-term working memory
Short order cook -- Have to keep track of many orders and cook many different things at the same time
Waitress -- Especially difficult if have to keep track of many different tables
Casino dealer -- Too many things to keep track of
Taxi dispatcher -- Too many things to keep track of
Taking oral dictation -- Difficult due to auditory processing problems
Airline ticket agent -- Deal with angry people when flights are cancelled
Future market trader -- Totally impossible
Air traffic controller -- Information overload and stress
Receptionist and telephone operator -- Would have problems when the switch board got busy


Table 2 Good Jobs for Visual Thinkers

Computer programming -- Wide-open field with many jobs available especially in industrial automation, software design, business computers, communications and network systems
Drafting -- Engineering drawings and computer aided drafting. This job can offer many opportunities. Drafting is an excellent portal of entry for many interesting technical jobs. I know people who started out at a company doing drafting and then moved into designing and laying out entire factories. To become really skilled at drafting, one needs to learn how to draw by hand first. I have observed that most of the people who draw beautiful drawings on a computer learned to draw by hand first. People who never learn to draw by hand first tend to leave important details out of their drawings.
Commercial art -- Advertising and magazine layout can be done as freelance work
Photography -- Still and video, TV cameraman can be done as freelance work
Equipment designing -- Many industries, often a person starts as a draftsman and then moves into designing factory equipment
Animal trainer or veterinary technician -- Dog obedience trainer, behavior problem consultant
Automobile mechanic -- Can visualize how the entire car works
Computer-troubleshooter and repair -- Can visualize problems in computers and networks
Small appliance and lawnmower repair -- Can make a nice local business
Handcrafts of many different types such as wood carving, jewelry making, ceramics, etc.
Laboratory technician -- Who modifies and builds specialized lab equipment
Web page design -- Find a good niche market can be done as freelance work
Building trades -- Carpenter or welder. These jobs make good use of visual skills but some people will not be able to do them well due to motor and coordination problems.
Video game designer -- Stay out of this field. Jobs are scarce and the field is overcrowded. There are many more jobs in industrial, communications business and software design computer programming. Another bad thing about this job is exposure to violent images.
Computer animation -- Visual thinkers would be very good at this field, but there is more competition in this field than in business or industrial computer programming. Businesses are recruiting immigrants from overseas because there is a shortage of good programmers in business and industrial fields.
Building maintenance -- Fixes broken pipes, windows and other things in an apartment complex, hotel or office building
Factory maintenance -- Repairs and fixes factory equipment


Table 3 Good Jobs for Non-Visual Thinkers: Those who are good at math, music or facts

Accounting -- Get very good in a specialized field such as income taxes
Library science -- reference librarian. Help people find information in the library or on the Internet.
Computer programming -- Less visual types can be done as freelance work
Engineering -- Electrical, electronic and chemical engineering
Journalist -- Very accurate facts, can be done as freelance
Copy editor -- Corrects manuscripts. Many people freelance for larger publishers
Taxi driver -- Knows where every street is
Inventory control -- Keeps track of merchandise stocked in a store
Tuning pianos and other musical instruments, can be done as freelance work
Laboratory technician -- Running laboratory equipment
Bank Teller -- Very accurate money counting, much less demand on short-term working memory than a busy cashier who mostly makes change quickly
Clerk and filing jobs -- knows where every file is
Telemarketing -- Get to repeat the same thing over and over, selling on the telephone. Noisy environment may be a problem. Telephone sales avoids many social problems.
Statistician -- Work in many different fields such as research, census bureau, industrial quality control, U.S. Dept. of Agriculture, etc.
Physicist or mathematician -- There are very few jobs in these fields. Only the very brilliant can get and keep jobs. Jobs are much more plentiful in computer programming and accounting.


Table 4 Jobs for Nonverbal People with Autism or People with Poor Verbal Skills

Reshelving library books -- Can memorize the entire numbering system and shelf locations
Factory assembly work -- Especially if the environment is quiet
Copy shop -- Running photocopies. Printing jobs should be lined up by somebody else
Janitor jobs -- Cleaning floors, toilets, windows and offices
Restocking shelves -- In many types of stores
Recycling plant -- Sorting jobs
Warehouse -- Loading trucks, stacking boxes
Lawn and garden work -- Mowing lawns and landscaping work
Data entry -- If the person has fine motor problems, this would be a bad job
Fast food restaurant -- Cleaning and cooking jobs with little demand on short-term memory
Plant care -- Water plants in a large office building

http://autism.com/individuals/jobs.htm


That is a good list.


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09 Jun 2011, 2:48 pm

I have been working as delivery van driver for last 6 years.

Work involves working with colleagues for 30% of day and being out on road alone for 70%.

Pros:

Mostly working alone.
When out on the road you can manage your own time and breaks, so takes away the stress.
My visual-spacial skills make me a great driver and absolutely brilliant at manouvering in tight space.
I have a good head for remembering streets and road networks.
Lots of statistics for us geeks (postcodes, streets, delivery times) etc.
These days a handheld display records deliveries so plenty of data input.
Interaction with customers is usually limited to hello, nice day, please sign here.
I do find driving theraputic as it 'grounds' me.

Cons:

The management and their 'helpers' put a lot of pressure on drivers to deliver more and more. (you need to stand your ground, have your own mind and quickly start to say 'no'.) (The best way to say 'no' is to come up with a good logical reason for 'no')

For 30% of your day in the warehouse you deal with a lot of people. (ultimately some or many will dislike you)

Can be stressful if you take on too big a workload.

In the warehouse you need to make a lot of relatively quick decisions on workload and routes. Can be stressful.

Overall I would recommend this job. The pros vastly outnumber the cons. However you need to be your own person. Ultimately you are solely responsible for your driving license and road safety. You need to say 'no' and not be pressuised into a big workload.

Speed Cameras- my aspie driving is 'instinctively safe' rather than always lawabiding.



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09 Jun 2011, 3:10 pm

I can tell you from personal experience that the worst job an Aspie can have is that of high pressure commission based sales. Not only do you have to continually interact with strangers(who likely don't want to talk to you) you have to talk about something that you likely don't care about and you have to overcome objections. Luckily I left the sales game and I won't be back but short of birthday party clown I can't think of a worse job for an Aspie to do.

On the best job side, I was a lap prep technician in college and I loved it. I got to work all day setting up the lab experiments the students would use and I got to work all day by myself in virtual silence. It was great and if I could afford to do it today, I'd work there for free.



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29 Nov 2011, 4:59 pm

the telemarketer thing may not work b/c some aspies such as meself are sensitive and people can get irritated when their dinnertime is interrupted by a phone call from a telemarketer however seeing that i attended an aviation seminar some months ago at the community college there are jobs in this field for aspies with an interest in this field.

Here are some examples of airport/aviation jobs:

- aircraft mechanic
- airport security screener
- loading and unloading baggage or freight onto/off aircrafts
- luggage check-in clerk
- airport fueler (operates fueling equipment and fuel truck and sometimes also cleaning equipment or power carts)
- airport driver
- airport emergency services (such as airport fire fighter, medic or police officer)
- sky cap (stands in front of airline entrances and helps passengers with their baggage and gives information about flight schedules, terminal access and such)
- airport maintenance jobs
- airport engineer (works with architects and contractors to design airports and runways and supervises design and construction)
- airport information desk
- lineperson (meets arriving aircrafts, guides them to the appropriate parking area, fuels and services the plane, inspects the craft for low tire pressure or fluid leaks and such)
- airport retail/restaurant jobs (working in shops or restaurants at the airport)
- airport cleaning jobs
- airfreight manager (works for airlines and supervises which freight is put on which aircraft, inspects dangerous goods shipments, creates a manifest and information sheet for the pilot and such)
- airline catering service jobs
- airport customs control
- various administration work for airports, airlines, freight forwarders, airport ground handling agents, airport service companies and aircraft manufacturers.
- steward/stewardess
- air traffic control
- passenger assistant (provides assistance to passengers if requested, for example for passengers with disabilities or seniors who may have difficulty getting around or navigating the airport)
- engineering, designing or manufacturing jobs for aircraft manufacturers


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30 Nov 2011, 3:24 am

mewtwo55555 wrote:
I was thinking of making a thread witch lists some good and bad jobs for people with aspergers.

Good jobs

Monk or nun with a vow of silence, so no talking, no saying the wrong thing.

Bad jobs
Medical field dont know how to respond to people.
interior desighn cause its my way or the highway.
Name some good and bad jobs that you guys think up, you can add funny ones in to.


well are monks or nuns allowed to smoke cannabis and drink beer at least? I mean no talking or ever saying the wrong things sound rather stressfull and lonely.

Medical feild would be bad because screw the healthcare system in my country so I don't want to be part of that mess.

Interior Design could actaully be kinda fun.


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30 Nov 2011, 5:21 am

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well are monks or nuns allowed to smoke cannabis and drink beer at least? I mean no talking or ever saying the wrong things sound rather stressfull and lonely.


They are involved in alcohol production.

Buckfast Abbey in England produces a "tonic wine" (wine with sugar and caffeine and other additives) that is favoured by young drinkers who wish to get drunk quickly before committing antisocial acts. (Wikipedia Article)

Trappist Monks in Belgium and the Netherlands make beer. Tasty and at upto 11.5% ABV will definitely help you see god!



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04 Dec 2011, 11:07 am

Tokiodarling21 wrote:
the telemarketer thing may not work b/c some aspies such as meself are sensitive and people can get irritated when their dinnertime is interrupted by a phone call from a telemarketer however seeing that i attended an aviation seminar some months ago at the community college there are jobs in this field for aspies with an interest in this field.

Here are some examples of airport/aviation jobs:

- aircraft mechanic
- airport security screener
- loading and unloading baggage or freight onto/off aircrafts
- luggage check-in clerk
- airport fueler (operates fueling equipment and fuel truck and sometimes also cleaning equipment or power carts)
- airport driver
- airport emergency services (such as airport fire fighter, medic or police officer)
- sky cap (stands in front of airline entrances and helps passengers with their baggage and gives information about flight schedules, terminal access and such)
- airport maintenance jobs
- airport engineer (works with architects and contractors to design airports and runways and supervises design and construction)
- airport information desk
- lineperson (meets arriving aircrafts, guides them to the appropriate parking area, fuels and services the plane, inspects the craft for low tire pressure or fluid leaks and such)
- airport retail/restaurant jobs (working in shops or restaurants at the airport)
- airport cleaning jobs
- airfreight manager (works for airlines and supervises which freight is put on which aircraft, inspects dangerous goods shipments, creates a manifest and information sheet for the pilot and such)
- airline catering service jobs
- airport customs control
- various administration work for airports, airlines, freight forwarders, airport ground handling agents, airport service companies and aircraft manufacturers.
- steward/stewardess
- air traffic control
- passenger assistant (provides assistance to passengers if requested, for example for passengers with disabilities or seniors who may have difficulty getting around or navigating the airport)
- engineering, designing or manufacturing jobs for aircraft manufacturers


2 of my favor jobs ever were customs and before that aviation security. It was a really great job. I worked in really small teams of people and just had to follow the rules no matter what. I even got to use Electronic Trace Detection Machines and X ray machines. If i was overwhelmed i would talk to my supervisor and do tarmac duty eg, walk around where the baggage crew worked poking my head into random crates of luggage or watch the conveyor belts. If i was really overwhelmed i would do Singapore guarding. Singapore airlines hires 2 guards per plane extra security at international terminals, so i would sit on the plane and listen to the radio for a few hours. I would still work there if the hours were ok with childcare.


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04 Dec 2011, 11:20 am

I think that any job that involves sorting or organizing is a good job for an Aspie like me. I used to work in the school library, and I loved it! The dewy decimal system was great, I felt satisfaction at helping to organize books (witch was fun on its own), and if I saw an interisting book I knew that even if it had just been checked out to someone else it would come back and I could read it then. :D


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Tokiodarling21 wrote:
the telemarketer thing may not work b/c some aspies such as meself are sensitive and people can get irritated when their dinnertime is interrupted by a phone call from a telemarketer however seeing that i attended an aviation seminar some months ago at the community college there are jobs in this field for aspies with an interest in this field.

Here are some examples of airport/aviation jobs:

- aircraft mechanic
- airport security screener
- loading and unloading baggage or freight onto/off aircrafts
- luggage check-in clerk
- airport fueler (operates fueling equipment and fuel truck and sometimes also cleaning equipment or power carts)
- airport driver
- airport emergency services (such as airport fire fighter, medic or police officer)
- sky cap (stands in front of airline entrances and helps passengers with their baggage and gives information about flight schedules, terminal access and such)
- airport maintenance jobs
- airport engineer (works with architects and contractors to design airports and runways and supervises design and construction)
- airport information desk
- lineperson (meets arriving aircrafts, guides them to the appropriate parking area, fuels and services the plane, inspects the craft for low tire pressure or fluid leaks and such)
- airport retail/restaurant jobs (working in shops or restaurants at the airport)
- airport cleaning jobs
- airfreight manager (works for airlines and supervises which freight is put on which aircraft, inspects dangerous goods shipments, creates a manifest and information sheet for the pilot and such)
- airline catering service jobs
- airport customs control
- various administration work for airports, airlines, freight forwarders, airport ground handling agents, airport service companies and aircraft manufacturers.
- steward/stewardess
- air traffic control
- passenger assistant (provides assistance to passengers if requested, for example for passengers with disabilities or seniors who may have difficulty getting around or navigating the airport)
- engineering, designing or manufacturing jobs for aircraft manufacturers


2 of my favor jobs ever were customs and before that aviation security. It was a really great job. I worked in really small teams of people and just had to follow the rules no matter what. I even got to use Electronic Trace Detection Machines and X ray machines. If i was overwhelmed i would talk to my supervisor and do tarmac duty eg, walk around where the baggage crew worked poking my head into random crates of luggage or watch the conveyor belts. If i was really overwhelmed i would do Singapore guarding. Singapore airlines hires 2 guards per plane extra security at international terminals, so i would sit on the plane and listen to the radio for a few hours. I would still work there if the hours were ok with childcare.


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06 Dec 2011, 4:31 am

I did data entry and filing at a school for autistic children. I liked that job.
I was a janitor at a military base. I was let go after a week because I had problems with directions to my job site and following the precise steps of cleaning that the military wants to see.



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11 Dec 2011, 12:42 pm

Well I would guess any job that requires a lot of social interaction is a bad job

Any job that is more technical and requires less people is a good job

Right now I work at the supermarket and its not a good job for an aspie. Its on the challenging side, it can teach you a lot being an aspie but its not a job most aspies would enjoy. For NTs its a pretty mindless job. The challenging parts are the multitasking and the dealing with customers. Especially if you cant answer a customer question, sometimes they get pissed. The not so challenging parts; the physical labor parts are intermixed with the challenging parts unless ur working the graveyard shifts. I would think most aspies would be able to clean, stock, push carts, and do other small maintenance work around the store. There is one guy who might be autistic but he has a job coach with him all the time and limited tasks.



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12 Dec 2011, 2:00 pm

I always wanted to work in a lighthouse on some godforsaken chunk of rock in the middle of the ocean.
Stupid technology killed that dream :(



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05 Mar 2014, 9:50 am

I know you got this from autism.com, but many of these jobs are low paying. In this day and age it just doesn't make any fiscal sense unless you're on disability and can only work a low wage job or are just not verbal enough for a fast paced sales job.

For those of us who are verbal and do not want to work in IT, this list is not great. It's time to think outside the box. Here's my top 5 for those Aspie helpers (not in any order):

1. Mortuary embalmer or cosmetologist
2. X-ray technician
3. Ultrasound or dialysis technician
4. Therapist (physical or occupational, not counseling or social work)
5. ICU nurse (tending to the comatose may be good)

Teachers:
1. Curriculum specialist or creator (teacherspayteachers.com is a great site where you can sell your own lesson plans)
2. Tutor or SEIT/SETTS (best not to work with children with behavioral problems or children on the spectrum, trust me; I am a SEIT)
3. Reading specialist
4. Museum docent (American Museum of Natural History or the Train Museum would be ideal)
5. computer teacher
*another one is a specialist teacher that goes from school to school teaching things like chess or nutrition. You may work for an agency or organization.

Art (so many in art)
1. sketch artist
2. 3D animator
3. cartoonist/comic book collector and sales
4. glass blower/scupltor
5. art gallery assistant
**photographer (it is overcrowded but there are more ways to make a living now and you dont even have to interact with a lot of people)

Animals (some of these were in the other list):
1. Dog groomer/walker
2. Dog trainer/breeder (being a breed expert would be wonderful)
3. Zoologist
4. Marine researcher
5. farm docent

Food
1. personal chef
2. cookbook writer
3. cake artist
4. food photographer
5. taste tester
**factories may be good places to work, with lots of repetitive tasks and benefits, but in some parts of the country, there are no food factories)

Science
1. lab tech
2. textbook writer
3. professor (have to do research and deal with tenure)
4. engineer
5.

Vocation:
1. Carpenters
2. Architect designer
3. facilities manager
4. maintenance worker/maid service
5. private shopper

Publishing
1. writer
2. editor
3. art design
4. Traffic
**I wouldn't do traffic without a solid knowledge of HTML and Flash. Traffic has changed a lot since I was in it.

Broadcasting
1. technical director
2. writer
3. sound engineer
4. lighting engineer
5. tape/library assistant or conservationist

there are more but these are what I came up with.

The truth is, Aspies can work in any field; it's the workplace environment which hangs us out to dry.

What I would like is for job advertisements to add what their work environments are honestly like before I apply. That way I can avoid a lot of unnecessary interactions with people who may overwhelm me.

Sort of like, "We're looking for a bubbly, sparkly personality," let's me know not to even bother.

I can do almost anything provided people left me alone to do it. Give me the work, tell me what you want done, how you want it done, give me the resources to do it, the deadline and where to put it when it is done then go away.

I wish I could create a company where people like me (introverted/Aspie) could go to work in peace. I am tired of wearing my headphones everywhere all day long.



zee wrote:
Here is an excellent list which includes bad and good jobs:

Table 1 Bad Jobs for People with High Functioning Autism or Asperger's Syndrome: Jobs that require high demands on short-term working memory

Cashier -- making change quickly puts too much demand on short-term working memory
Short order cook -- Have to keep track of many orders and cook many different things at the same time
Waitress -- Especially difficult if have to keep track of many different tables
Casino dealer -- Too many things to keep track of
Taxi dispatcher -- Too many things to keep track of
Taking oral dictation -- Difficult due to auditory processing problems
Airline ticket agent -- Deal with angry people when flights are cancelled
Future market trader -- Totally impossible
Air traffic controller -- Information overload and stress
Receptionist and telephone operator -- Would have problems when the switch board got busy


Table 2 Good Jobs for Visual Thinkers

Computer programming -- Wide-open field with many jobs available especially in industrial automation, software design, business computers, communications and network systems
Drafting -- Engineering drawings and computer aided drafting. This job can offer many opportunities. Drafting is an excellent portal of entry for many interesting technical jobs. I know people who started out at a company doing drafting and then moved into designing and laying out entire factories. To become really skilled at drafting, one needs to learn how to draw by hand first. I have observed that most of the people who draw beautiful drawings on a computer learned to draw by hand first. People who never learn to draw by hand first tend to leave important details out of their drawings.
Commercial art -- Advertising and magazine layout can be done as freelance work
Photography -- Still and video, TV cameraman can be done as freelance work
Equipment designing -- Many industries, often a person starts as a draftsman and then moves into designing factory equipment
Animal trainer or veterinary technician -- Dog obedience trainer, behavior problem consultant
Automobile mechanic -- Can visualize how the entire car works
Computer-troubleshooter and repair -- Can visualize problems in computers and networks
Small appliance and lawnmower repair -- Can make a nice local business
Handcrafts of many different types such as wood carving, jewelry making, ceramics, etc.
Laboratory technician -- Who modifies and builds specialized lab equipment
Web page design -- Find a good niche market can be done as freelance work
Building trades -- Carpenter or welder. These jobs make good use of visual skills but some people will not be able to do them well due to motor and coordination problems.
Video game designer -- Stay out of this field. Jobs are scarce and the field is overcrowded. There are many more jobs in industrial, communications business and software design computer programming. Another bad thing about this job is exposure to violent images.
Computer animation -- Visual thinkers would be very good at this field, but there is more competition in this field than in business or industrial computer programming. Businesses are recruiting immigrants from overseas because there is a shortage of good programmers in business and industrial fields.
Building maintenance -- Fixes broken pipes, windows and other things in an apartment complex, hotel or office building
Factory maintenance -- Repairs and fixes factory equipment


Table 3 Good Jobs for Non-Visual Thinkers: Those who are good at math, music or facts

Accounting -- Get very good in a specialized field such as income taxes
Library science -- reference librarian. Help people find information in the library or on the Internet.
Computer programming -- Less visual types can be done as freelance work
Engineering -- Electrical, electronic and chemical engineering
Journalist -- Very accurate facts, can be done as freelance
Copy editor -- Corrects manuscripts. Many people freelance for larger publishers
Taxi driver -- Knows where every street is
Inventory control -- Keeps track of merchandise stocked in a store
Tuning pianos and other musical instruments, can be done as freelance work
Laboratory technician -- Running laboratory equipment
Bank Teller -- Very accurate money counting, much less demand on short-term working memory than a busy cashier who mostly makes change quickly
Clerk and filing jobs -- knows where every file is
Telemarketing -- Get to repeat the same thing over and over, selling on the telephone. Noisy environment may be a problem. Telephone sales avoids many social problems.
Statistician -- Work in many different fields such as research, census bureau, industrial quality control, U.S. Dept. of Agriculture, etc.
Physicist or mathematician -- There are very few jobs in these fields. Only the very brilliant can get and keep jobs. Jobs are much more plentiful in computer programming and accounting.


Table 4 Jobs for Nonverbal People with Autism or People with Poor Verbal Skills

Reshelving library books -- Can memorize the entire numbering system and shelf locations
Factory assembly work -- Especially if the environment is quiet
Copy shop -- Running photocopies. Printing jobs should be lined up by somebody else
Janitor jobs -- Cleaning floors, toilets, windows and offices
Restocking shelves -- In many types of stores
Recycling plant -- Sorting jobs
Warehouse -- Loading trucks, stacking boxes
Lawn and garden work -- Mowing lawns and landscaping work
Data entry -- If the person has fine motor problems, this would be a bad job
Fast food restaurant -- Cleaning and cooking jobs with little demand on short-term memory
Plant care -- Water plants in a large office building

http://autism.com/individuals/jobs.htm



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22 Apr 2014, 3:34 pm

In my experience, avoid being a chef. I destroyed part of the stove trying to make tea (a story I don't want to get into).



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22 Apr 2014, 4:50 pm

In my experience, grocery store cashier. Boring, high stress job that makes you learn to hate people. Even NTs who get into it learn to hate it after a while.

You HAVE to talk to each and every customer (even if it's just to say hi) there is unnatural lighting, tons of erratic electronic beeping noises, and you are stuck in a little 2 foot square 'cubicle' for 6-8 hours. Plus sometimes you get those people who treat you like dirt, and even have people try to scam the store or try to intimidate you "But you won't let me use this old expired coupon? They let me use an expired coupon at the other store, I wanna see your manager!" (Even though we aren't supposed to take expired coupons.) Once I am no longer cashier, I promise myself I will never take another cashier position, ever again. :evil:


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