is there any tell tale signs of Asperger's



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lightening020
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15 Apr 2008, 11:32 pm

are there any symptons of Asperger's that one would have if they had AS.

like waht are the most common telltale signs?



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15 Apr 2008, 11:39 pm

I'll try:

-very obvious social difficulties
-tendency to have "obsessions" (obsessive interests)
-physical clumsiness
-sensory difficulties
-may have rituals or routines that they follow, when these routines are broken, it causes stress
-tendency to take things literally
-bad eye-contact
-strange facial expersions or posture
-difficulty picking up social cues

I garuntee I forgot one or more things, but I tried :P



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16 Apr 2008, 12:06 am

hey, wow! are you talking about ME??

Asperger's Syndrome folks also can be very gullible :wink:



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16 Apr 2008, 12:25 am

Yes.

Severe social impairment, which is defined by problems with emotional/social reciprocity, a lack of empathy/relatedness to others, lacking in a whole slew of nonverbal cues; having difficulty appreciating the same nonverbal cues when people utilize them. Funny voice characteristics (lacking in "appropriate" emotional inflection)

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Restricted patterns of interest, which manifests by having an all-absorbing interest [at the time] that one devotes inordinate amounts of time to, and often at the exclusion of things one "should" be doing

These are the two main points for AS. Autism has more attached.



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16 Apr 2008, 1:01 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Yes.

Severe social impairment, which is defined by problems with emotional/social reciprocity, a lack of empathy/relatedness to others, lacking in a whole slew of nonverbal cues; having difficulty appreciating the same nonverbal cues when people utilize them. Funny voice characteristics (lacking in "appropriate" emotional inflection)

and

Restricted patterns of interest, which manifests by having an all-absorbing interest [at the time] that one devotes inordinate amounts of time to, and often at the exclusion of things one "should" be doing

These are the two main points for AS. Autism has more attached.


isn't Asperger's Syndrome some flavor of Autism, though?



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16 Apr 2008, 1:46 am

Yeah (it's an autism spectrum disorder).

I meant autistic disorder, which I usually refer to as autism.

That has (this is generally speaking) compared to AS:
Verbal communication difficulties
lack of imaginative play as a child; lining toys up, not playing with them properly, etcetera
cognitive delay in most cases; "backwards" in more areas than just social interaction
"aloofness" and self-isolation in most cases, from a child to adult
marked distress to change
motor mannerisms in relation to the interest, i.e., mimicking the actions of something over and over again; copying the boxing moves of Ali for example
rituals to do things; this ties into the marked distress of change

The "highest-functioning" of individuals with autistic disorder tend to blur the gap between the two, but there's still the above differences, just not as severe.



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16 Apr 2008, 1:49 am

what a world when a child can only play with a toy 'properly'.



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16 Apr 2008, 1:59 am

Yeah....

Instead of "driving" a toy truck, opening and closing its tray instead. Biting the toys ("mouthing"), and other inappropriate ways of playing with them.

There's a whole heap of handless, and gnawed on Star Wars figures buried in someone's backyard because of little Daniel....



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16 Apr 2008, 2:08 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Yeah....

Instead of "driving" a toy truck, opening and closing its tray instead. Biting the toys ("mouthing"), and other inappropriate ways of playing with them.

There's a whole heap of handless, and gnawed on Star Wars figures buried in someone's backyard because of little Daniel....


I remember counting my stuffed animal fawn's 5 spots on each side time after time after time after time.

I have a picture of me as a three year old wrestling with my mother while distroying my first doll prambulator by forcing myself into it feet first and ripping out the bottom . . the bow from under the christmas tree was still on it . . . I remember being driven to get into it, just driven.
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16 Apr 2008, 5:24 am

sinsboldly wrote:
Asperger's Syndrome folks also can be very gullible :wink:

true
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16 Apr 2008, 6:29 am

You have to realize that, although everyone here is right about symptoms, it has to do with a preponderance of them, and they can change over time. I'm pretty sure I have AS, and here I am:

-very obvious social difficulties (A bit less obvious NOW)
-tendency to have "obsessions" (obsessive interests)
-physical clumsiness (I hid much of this)
-sensory difficulties (These don't tend to appear to others much with me, and I try to prevent them from appearing)
-may have rituals or routines that they follow, when these routines are broken, it causes stress
-tendency to take things literally (It is less likely with me now)
-bad eye-contact (I tend to look AROUND the eyes, so it isn't apparent)
-strange facial expersions or posture (Less obvious now)
-difficulty picking up social cues (I pick up on more now)
-guillible (Well, a LOT of people are guillible today. I have gotten pretty cynical)
-aloofness(Not that apparent now, but I am. Of course, my NEIGHBOORS all know!)

The SOCIAL problems and aloofness ARE pretty much a hallmark of autism/AS though. They are also THE major part of one of the points of the "triad of impairments", so I don't think you can have autism/as without that. Like I said though, that alone means little.



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16 Apr 2008, 7:12 am

Danielismyname wrote:
Yeah....

Instead of "driving" a toy truck, opening and closing its tray instead. Biting the toys ("mouthing"), and other inappropriate ways of playing with them.

There's a whole heap of handless, and gnawed on Star Wars figures buried in someone's backyard because of little Daniel....


Heman, Master of the Universe, had one completely flattened right hand due to my gnawing :)


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16 Apr 2008, 9:56 am

She's a minion of Skeletor.

I did Vader's work.



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16 Apr 2008, 12:02 pm

Take a look here and click on "diagnostic criteria."

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16 Apr 2008, 12:08 pm

Doing own thing and not being particularly swayed by other children as well.



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