AS people who are religious....
Compare above statement with this one:
You want reason for religion,but then you negatively label religion (in general),and in a sense you already demonstrated that you don't want any reason for religion,and that your question from above is purely rhetorical.
"Give me honest and intelligent reason for religion,so that I can deny that this reason is honest and intelligent" is most likely rationale for above statement(I believe).
That only depends on your personal definition of Communism.
Self professed Communist societies lasted for decades,and some (like North Korea) still exist today.
Communism as official state ideology starts with Vladimir Lenin,not Stalin.
Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_ord ... nd_in_1939
and this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khalkhin_Gol
Off course not....
Mao was also a 'Fascist dictator',this has nothing to do with religion:
http://www.tibet.com/whitepaper/white7.html
The Chinese Communist Party considers that its ideology and that of religion are two forces that cannot co-exist and occupy the same spot at the same time. ... the differences between the two (ie, science and religion) can be likened to those between light and darkness, between truth and falsehood. There is absolutely no possibility to reconcile the mutually-opposed world views of science and religion.
This Communist Chinese view was all-pervasive. In Mao Zedong's own words, "... but of course, religion is poison. It has two great defects: It undermines the race ...(and) ret*ds the progress of the country. Tibet and Mongolia have both been poisoned by it."
By the middle of the 1950s, the Chinese authorities realised that religion was the principal obstacle to their control of Tibet. Therefore, from the beginning of 1956, a so-called "Democratic Reform" was carried out, first in Kham and Amdo, and later (in 1959) in Central Tibet. Monasteries, temples, and cultural centres were systematically looted of all articles of value and then dismantled.
As a matter of fact,Mao's statements are almost identical with statements of many 'new atheists' on this forum.
As for Soviet Union:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecutio ... viet_Union
All this,off course have nothing to do with religion....
Note:In a true Christian society,there is obviously no violence.
There is also a "Christian communism":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
But violent,oppressive Communism known to most of us was inspired by something else...
As Lenin once said:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/autho ... lenin.html
Vladimir Lenin
Hitler was baptized as Catholic,in same manner that Joseph Stalin was baptized as Orthodox,or Richard Dawkins was baptized as Anglican.
I believe that Hitlers 'religion' was closer to Wicca then to traditional Christianity.
Here is about Hitler:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitl ... us_beliefs
Sweden had platform of non-involvement...though that's not to say they didn't like the idea...
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"Give me honest and intelligent reason for religion,so that I can deny that this reason is honest and intelligent" is most likely rationale for above statement(I believe).
Or perhaps you're misunderstanding me or even twisting my words?
The reason i stated those negative things about religion is so i don't have to bring it up again and again. People can take those things into consideration and then give a proper response.
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I was raised in a religious family - actually, my mom's religion was different from my dad's, but my mom raised me with her religion (Tibetan Buddhism). I later became a Christian, then ended up miscellaneously spiritual. So I was raised by religious parents but also found God on my own
There are a lot of people in my family who are strongly religious (my mom is living in a monastery now, for instance); I've wondered if the propensity for it is genetic. I know religion has always interested me.
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