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Hi im 17 years old diagnosed with aspergers, i was diagnosed about 3 years ago and i was one of those "if i try hard enough i can be just like everyone else" so i always denied treatment because i didnt want to believe i had this disorder. ive ALWAYS had some kind of social life, always, ive never really had no friends at all. but until about recently i never really thought about my diagnosis. now i find my self socially isolated, i havent left my house for about a month, its like aspergers is eating me alive, my diagnosis is never far from my mind it seems like i think about it all day "why me, why did i have to have aspergers" i often think about what my life would have been if i didnt have aspergers...i have really good looks people always tell me how cute/handsome i am and i always think about all the girlfriends i could have had, the great social life i could have had... but no, i have aspergers. ive never isolated myself like this before and i think its obvious i have problems but like i said before i have always denied treatment and help from my school/counselors/doctors/psychologists because i did not want to believe i have this. now i really regret it and i dont know what to do, i cannot see myself confronting my mom about this and at this time im not seeing any psychologists/counselors or getting any kind of help at all. so i ask, does treatment really make a big difference?



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Wed May 28, 2008 1:09 am

yes it helps you function and leanr the life skills you need. We all have struggles. People on the spectrum just tend to struggle with social skill. We can learn these, it is not impossible. You can talk to a psychologist, read a book, whatever works for you. I was in dneial for 5 years. I finally accepted it and happy for doing so. If people are offering you help take it, I used to ignore the help, but realized I was better off taking it. If you had freinds before the diagnosis you can have them after. We have strengths that others do not too. I am happy being on the spectrum.


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Wed May 28, 2008 1:11 am

I can tell you from experience "treatment" is a myth. There is no magic cure.
Aspergers is not a disease with a fix. It is who, it is what you are. Though there are countless concepts of treatments, virtually limitless examples - none, and I mean this, none are real. Neurotypicals think they are real, but that's largely due to a psychological factor of the neurotypical mindset.
Why would you need treatment? Aspergers is a factor of your physiology - your neurological structure. Saying you can "treat" it is saying that you can "treat" being Latino, or "treat" being six foot tall.
Any sort of treatments can be, in truth, disruptful and very harmful.
As I said; I do speak from experience, so trust me on this. It's a very, very bad idea.



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matsuiny2004 wrote:
yes it helps you function and leanr the life skills you need. We all have struggles. People on the spectrum just tend to struggle with social skill. We can learn these, it is not impossible. You can talk to a psychologist, read a book, whatever works for you. I was in dneial for 5 years. I finally accepted it and happy for doing so. If people are offering you help take it, I used to ignore the help, but realized I was better off taking it. If you had freinds before the diagnosis you can have them after.


all the doors are closed for me though, i denied every opportunity to get treatment or help. i dont know what to do...



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There are lots of adults who existed before there was a DX for AS, though you wouldn't realize it from the lack of media attention. None of us have had any "As treatment" though some have had help with the depression and anxiety that can happen when you have AS.

Do you have any positive traits that you think are because of AS? Do you have any special interests that give you pleasure ? What problems do you think you might need help in socilizing ? Do you have a lot of sensory issues that are causing you problems ? We are all different, so I was wondering what you are having the most problems with ?


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yes it helps you function and leanr the life skills you need. We all have struggles. People on the spectrum just tend to struggle with social skill. We can learn these, it is not impossible. You can talk to a psychologist, read a book, whatever works for you. I was in dneial for 5 years. I finally accepted it and happy for doing so. If people are offering you help take it, I used to ignore the help, but realized I was better off taking it. If you had freinds before the diagnosis you can have them after.


all the doors are closed for me though, i denied every opportunity to get treatment or help. i dont know what to do...


I would talk to your parents, or the people you have said this to. There are always resources.


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krex wrote:
There are lots of adults who existed before there was a DX for AS, though you wouldn't realize it from the lack of media attention. None of us have had any "As treatment" though some have had help with the depression and anxiety that can happen when you have AS.

Do you have any positive traits that you think are because of AS? Do you have any special interests that give you pleasure ? What problems do you think you might need help in socilizing ? Do you have a lot of sensory issues that are causing you problems ? We are all different, so I was wondering what you are having the most problems with ?


no, hell no, i dont believe anything positive can come of this disorder, i find myself suicidal sometimes. as for special interests i believe i have a obsessive compulsive disorder because i can sit on a computer and play video games ALL day. i have sensory issues as well, its really sunny here and im really sensitive to light i have to squint really hard and it makes me really uncomfortable, which is probably why i dont leave my house... and socializing problems, i get nervous alot especially with new people, i studder or say the wrong thing sometimes or get unusually quiet and strangely my neck/shoulder muscles seem to get really tight sometimes and i start shaking its really awkward.



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krex wrote:
There are lots of adults who existed before there was a DX for AS, though you wouldn't realize it from the lack of media attention. None of us have had any "As treatment" though some have had help with the depression and anxiety that can happen when you have AS.

Do you have any positive traits that you think are because of AS? Do you have any special interests that give you pleasure ? What problems do you think you might need help in socilizing ? Do you have a lot of sensory issues that are causing you problems ? We are all different, so I was wondering what you are having the most problems with ?


no, hell no, i dont believe anything positive can come of this disorder, i find myself suicidal sometimes. as for special interests i believe i have a obsessive compulsive disorder because i can sit on a computer and play video games ALL day. i have sensory issues as well, its really sunny here and im really sensitive to light i have to squint really hard and it makes me really uncomfortable, which is probably why i dont leave my house... and socializing problems, i get nervous alot especially with new people, i studder or say the wrong thing sometimes or get unusually quiet and strangely my neck/shoulder muscles seem to get really tight sometimes and i start shaking its really awkward.


Well there is no cure and will not be for a longtime or forever. Treatments onyl help. If you can not find anything positive about yourself the nyou are screwed already. It is harsh, but true. If it helps there are aspie traits in most people just not to the extent most of us have. Even learning social skills is just a tool to help you. Is there something positive you like about yourself?


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yes it helps you function and leanr the life skills you need. We all have struggles. People on the spectrum just tend to struggle with social skill. We can learn these, it is not impossible. You can talk to a psychologist, read a book, whatever works for you. I was in dneial for 5 years. I finally accepted it and happy for doing so. If people are offering you help take it, I used to ignore the help, but realized I was better off taking it. If you had freinds before the diagnosis you can have them after.


all the doors are closed for me though, i denied every opportunity to get treatment or help. i dont know what to do...


I would talk to your parents, or the people you have said this to. There are always resources.


i have never ever not even once talked about my diagnosis with my parents or any psychologist/counselor or anybody, ive been in denial for quite some time.



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Wed May 28, 2008 1:37 am

its good for others to know, not necesarily everyone you meet but maybe you can trust, just so you can have some people covering your short commings. Like my mum knows alot of what I have problems with such as being unable go to the cash register or have friends know why you act diferently.Realy just go into self discovery and get some people you know to be a bit more understanding. what exactly are you having problems with.
ps i am also 17



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I=The best I can say is talk to your parents about your diagnosis. It might be scary, but you will be better off than just continuing your life in denial. You can talk to the school psychologist too. I am sure she would not stop herself from helping you.


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Wed May 28, 2008 1:41 am

I have the same problem with sunlight that you have. I tried different cheap pairs of sunglasses and discovered that polarized lenses are a great solution. They don't even need to be heavily tinted to cut the baneful glare. I choose polarized sunglasses with the lightest tint so that I can even wear them inside if I want.


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Wed May 28, 2008 1:49 am

I have dx Asperger's and I have friends. I don't go out much, but I do go out with them a couple of times a month and we have a good time. We walk around London for hours and chat. My Mum wants me to go to the cinema, go clubbing, go shopping, go to parties etc... but I'm not interested and its not necessary. Don't push yourself into doing anything that you don't want to do. That's what I would say.


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I have dx Asperger's and I have friends. I don't go out much, but I do go out with them a couple of times a month and we have a good time. We walk around London for hours and chat. My Mum wants me to go to the cinema, go clubbing, go shopping, go to parties etc... but I'm not interested and its not necessary. Don't push yourself into doing anything that you don't want to do. That's what I would say.


up until about new years i would go out almost every single day and sometimes not come home for days at a time, but it seems now that im more aware of my diagnosis i have a much harder time socializing.



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I have dx Asperger's and I have friends. I don't go out much, but I do go out with them a couple of times a month and we have a good time. We walk around London for hours and chat. My Mum wants me to go to the cinema, go clubbing, go shopping, go to parties etc... but I'm not interested and its not necessary. Don't push yourself into doing anything that you don't want to do. That's what I would say.


up until about new years i would go out almost every single day and sometimes not come home for days at a time, but it seems now that im more aware of my diagnosis i have a much harder time socializing.


You had aspergers before the diagnosis, you were still able to to do that. It is not like it all the sudden happened to you.


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