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02 Jun 2008, 12:31 pm

Since you like it dead why must it have come from an animal rather than a mass of grown protein. I assume they can make it equally tasty. Do you enjoy the concept that it must have visualized its life as a joyful experience and that was destroyed for your pleasure? Is it a kind of macho dominance thing but someone else must go through the experience of extinguishing a life?



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02 Jun 2008, 12:43 pm

The animals are killed, yes, but not for me in particular. I wouldn't walk up to a cow and say, "Can ya kill this one for me?" It's pretty impersonal when animals are slaughtered en-masse for beef in the supermarket aisle. That was a pretty sloppy attempt at a guilt trip, I must say. And I don't think I'd want to eat something that began as a big, meaty tumour. But would I know the difference if someone deceived me? Maybe. If the animal's had a good life, you can taste it. And Grace Before Meals includes thanking the animal for its meat. American Indians take this a few steps further and deify the animal from whose flesh they survive.



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02 Jun 2008, 12:48 pm

Guilt? Obviously you are incapable of accepting the consequences of your way of living. Whatever the hell happens to provide you with your desires is of no matter to you.



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02 Jun 2008, 1:12 pm

Circle of life, my friend. If I didn't eat dead animals, someone else would have to. How coudl I not value the life of an animal if its death provided for my table? It just depends on how you look at it.



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02 Jun 2008, 1:41 pm

I have been in close association with all sorts of animals all my life and the concept that they would prove valuable to me only because I could eat them is the most narrow minded idea I have ever encountered insofar as human animal relationships are concerned. I am sorry for you for the abysmal poverty of your relationships to other life.



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02 Jun 2008, 3:37 pm

Don't be sorry.



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03 Jun 2008, 2:26 am

I was vegetarian for religious reasons. I still prefer vegetarian food over non-vegetarian. If you serve me a bowl of rice with tea on one table and steak on the other, I'll choose the bowl of rice.

What got me away from vegetarianism was the fact that I had to "force" my family to actually eat the food with me (being that we eat together). I figured it was selfish of me to tell them what to eat. However, I do manage to convince them at times to eat vegetarian only.

Another reason why I'm not fully vegetarian is more personal. No need to mention it here.




I don't like many of the animal rights groups out there. PETA are hypocrites.


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03 Jun 2008, 2:35 am

dim-sims :lol:


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03 Jun 2008, 5:27 am

I paid good money to get a guide who would take me mountain lion hunting. We got one too. The dogs treed it and I shot that SOB right off a high branch. The ol boy wasnt dead when he hit the ground but the dogs handled it. I was cool with it all until I took the lion to be taxidermied and found out he had broken paws. This isnt normally the sort of thing that happens when a lion falls out of a tree, but rather when theyre caught beforehand and disabled to make for an easier hunt.

no I didnt eat it


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03 Jun 2008, 5:55 am

Hunt for what?

You do realize that's illegal.


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03 Jun 2008, 6:42 am

MissConstrue wrote:
Hunt for what?

You do realize that's illegal.


Illegal? As long as you have a hunting license during hunting seasons. I am aware that other countries make it illegal.


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03 Jun 2008, 7:37 am

Oscuria, your post is pretty ironic when paired with a bleeding heart sig about racist murderers in Darfur. You are no bleeding heart, my friend. So just cut the crap. BTW, I would have been more offended if you'd shot a family of mountain lions, skinned them, and took pictures with the skinless bodies of the animals on the roof of your car.



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03 Jun 2008, 8:32 am

slowmutant wrote:
Oscuria, your post is pretty ironic when paired with a bleeding heart sig about racist murderers in Darfur. You are no bleeding heart, my friend. So just cut the crap. BTW, I would have been more offended if you'd shot a family of mountain lions, skinned them, and took pictures with the skinless bodies of the animals on the roof of your car.


Explain.


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