Michael Wiener(AKA Michael Savage) says autism is a fraud

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nightbender
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29 Jul 2008, 12:17 pm

ideas dont change people do



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29 Jul 2008, 12:38 pm

nightbender wrote:
ideas dont change people do


Poppycock. One of the ideas that the US was founded on ("... all men are created equal... ") has changed dramatically over time. Originally, it meant white males who owned property. Over time, that idea was expanded to include Negroes, American Indians, and women.



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29 Jul 2008, 12:45 pm

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I dont know who he is but I would like to take this opportunity to tell you all that I beat autism. One day I just "snapped out of it". I feel mucH BETTER AND YOU CAN TOO SO STOP FEELING SO DAMN SORRY FOR YOURSELF AND SNAP OUT OF IT ALREADY. i EXPLAINED aSPERGERS ONE TIME TO A LADY WHO WAS WAITING IN LINE, AND SHE SAID, "THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE ARE JUST NERDS".


Didn't snap out of incoherence, the inability to notice a caps lock on, or the inability to edit one's post when it is noticed that the caps lock is on. Autism may have been beaten, but below mean intellect remains a hurdle, eh?


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29 Jul 2008, 12:59 pm

monty wrote:
nightbender wrote:
ideas dont change people do


Poppycock. One of the ideas that the US was founded on ("... all men are created equal... ") has changed dramatically over time. Originally, it meant white males who owned property. Over time, that idea was expanded to include Negroes, American Indians, and women.


your confusing ideas with attitudes.



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29 Jul 2008, 1:12 pm

nightbender wrote:
...your confusing ideas with attitudes.


My confusing ideas with attitudes? Okay!
Ideas exist only the individual mind. An idea cannot be communicated accurately to another person, only with a minimum of innacuracy. As an individual changes, the mind changes, ergo the idea as conceived changes. Sorry, but ideas don't exist as ding an sich.


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29 Jul 2008, 1:20 pm

ideas exist if they are acted upon.



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29 Jul 2008, 1:31 pm

nightbender wrote:
ideas dont change people do


You got it backwards: ideas DO change but people still do the same things theyve always done.



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29 Jul 2008, 1:33 pm

Haliphron wrote:
nightbender wrote:
ideas dont change people do


You got it backwards: ideas DO change but people still do the same things theyve always done.


what do you mean we dont burn people any more.



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29 Jul 2008, 1:39 pm

nightbender wrote:
ideas exist if they are acted upon.


No, actions exist, still no ideas on their own. This an ontic and epistemic issue, not a semantic one.


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29 Jul 2008, 1:46 pm

you win.

bear with me i am trying to get my reason skills back up after 5 years of chemical assautl.

before that i never lost debates.