Should women become more superficial?

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14 Sep 2008, 12:29 pm

^^ riiight ...and ProtossX is the live proof of this. :lol:



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14 Sep 2008, 12:44 pm

Well, there are always exceptions.


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14 Sep 2008, 12:45 pm

MrMark wrote:
Well, there are always exceptions.

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14 Sep 2008, 12:47 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
^^ riiight ...and ProtossX is the live proof of this. :lol:


I'm still not convinced that protoss is an aspie... until he starts blurting out "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!", that is...



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14 Sep 2008, 12:54 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
^^ riiight ...and ProtossX is the live proof of this. :lol:


I'm still not convinced that protoss is an aspie... until he starts blurting out "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!", that is...

Some people seem to think that we are automatically the most rational people. But however rational you are that doesn't mean your knowledge is not impaired. As much as I don't want to add to the Asperger’s stereotype, ProtossX is a pretty typical person with ASD in presentation. The fact that he irritates people is not reason to out him.



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14 Sep 2008, 1:45 pm

Since when has being superficial a good thing? The less people judge others on inconsequential things that quite easily can say nothing about a person's true character like looks (and money and power and all that), the better. If people like someone based on something other than looks, I say more power to them. Just because men stereotypically are driven by looks doesn't mean that women have to make their decisions on the same basis. In fact, in the case that it is true that women are not shallow, it's better to keep the high ground, I think.



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14 Sep 2008, 1:47 pm

No, women should not be more superficial. Reason why: There are only a few years when anyone looks "hot." Between oh, about 16 till about 30. After that, they can look good, of course. But let's say a woman who is really intelligent decides to sacrifice part of her energies and devote time that she could be using more wisely in performing acts to indulge the superficial.

If you add up the minutes she would spend doing those things it would be staggering.

Conversely, if she preserve every minute she has in doing things that are meaningful and full of purpose, then when the winnowing begins and her age group begins to age, she will be ahead in things that matter. It is disgusting to see both men and women who are aging and they act like teenagers. They have not learned to nurture things that matter.

It would be a very bad sensation to look around and know you have wasted so many precious minutes on primping and trying to please people for what? And at what expense?

This is not to say that on occasinon it is not meaningful. If there is a special occasion or if it is essential to spank up to prove to yourself that you COULD look good if you wanted to even if you don't, or if you need to dress nice for a specific reason, that is not a big waste of time. It is the tme added up.

Same goes for guys, too, so this post is not just for women.



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14 Sep 2008, 1:52 pm

BokeKaeru wrote:
Since when has being superficial a good thing? The less people judge others on inconsequential things that quite easily can say nothing about a person's true character like looks (and money and power and all that), the better. If people like someone based on something other than looks, I say more power to them. Just because men stereotypically are driven by looks doesn't mean that women have to make their decisions on the same basis. In fact, in the case that it is true that women are not shallow, it's better to keep the high ground, I think.

Preference in not shallow it is natural and you have one whether you are aware of it or not. Expecting other people to adhere to your preference is shallow, in my opinion.

I do agree that placing more value on thing that come and go or are external to the person is shallower, but everyone is guilty of that to an extent.



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14 Sep 2008, 3:12 pm

Both men AND women need to become LESS superficial, not more. It would spare them a lot of pain.



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14 Sep 2008, 3:42 pm

ProtossX wrote:
well lets see

Angelina Jolie has Brad pitt.... shes hot is he ugly?

Charlize Theron dating some super model guy...shes hot is he ugly?

Jessica Simpson married a teen pop sexy symbol...shes hot is he ugly?


Mandy Moore dated a teen tennis sex symbol...shes hot was he ugly?

I think ur whole point is terrible and maybe ur thinkin of TV when u see a ugly guy with a hot chick cuz in the real world i dont see it happening EVER u liar


...Celebrities HELLO! They live in fantasy land that most of us do not live in and have access to all the plastic surgery in the world!



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14 Sep 2008, 3:44 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
LePetitPrince wrote:
^^ riiight ...and ProtossX is the live proof of this. :lol:


I'm still not convinced that protoss is an aspie... until he starts blurting out "YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS!", that is...


(giggles)

I also just read your title "extremist moderate"

Can people please throw the "auties have no humor" out the window now?



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14 Sep 2008, 4:47 pm

Cyberman wrote:
Both men AND women need to become LESS superficial, not more. It would spare them a lot of pain.


Actually I think the whole reason people are superficial is because it avoids the pain areas of deeper relationships, despite how rewarding those actually are. Maybe when these folks become older, they realize they messed up.

Or society will cater to the shallow and have everyone at 30 meet that huge floating orb thing from Logan's Run.


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14 Sep 2008, 5:51 pm

If people were less superficial, fewer women would get stuck with jerks all the time, and fewer men would end up alone.

Of course, I guess it's unrealistic to expect people to change. If the 2004 presidential election taught me anything, it's that you should never "misunderestimate" the extent of human stupidity.



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14 Sep 2008, 6:24 pm

There is no one and nothing that "should be superficial".
Some women date attractive men and vise versa, but we can't assume they're all dating attractive people sheerly because they are attractive.



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14 Sep 2008, 7:35 pm

Why don't we all just post pics here and make bets of whose attractive and who's not? :o

I don't like superificiality but this board confuses me as to what superficiality we're talking about...Looks, personality, IQ, Well-being, Height :lol:, NT, AS, Profession, Alpha, Beta, Female, Male, etc. etc. etc.

To the extent, most people are superficial when they want to attract a wasp. But it depends on what that wasp is looking for besides that Hornet's beauty. I'm no expert but I think ppl tend to overanalyze without looking at it from the big picture and that is a little experience.

I hate to say this but I don't think we are as precise and fit into that tight knit social construct as we want to think. No I'm not saying that it's unimportant but don't you think that people are regardless of gender are going to have their own individuality added to it.

I'm wondering if it's mostly due to the fear of the unknown. I mean most of us who may be aspie don't handle unpredictability that well. When delving into a relationship of any sort, anything is bound to happen even unpleasant things. You might like that person and then hate them and then like them again or as an aspie, take the unpleasant experience too literally. Not saying everyone's like this but from what I know about aspie traits, we tend to feel more comfortable analyzing than actually doing anything that requires a RISK without the probablility or knoweledge of an outcome.

OK, I'll shutup now... :roll:


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14 Sep 2008, 8:49 pm

Cyberman and MissConstrue speak the truth :D
No, NOBODY should become more superficial, that won't solve anything! Like MissConstrue said, there are many different types of superficiality. Sure, I see plenty of unbelievably good looking women with complete meritless ugly cavemen without a single redeeming feature, but this is usually because said barely human person has a vastly inflated ego, which a lot of, dare I say it, superficial women latch on to, because the more awesome and successful that person believes they are, the more other people believe they are, too. In short, that person having a high opinion of themselves is a good first indicator as to whether that person is also popular and successful, whether deserved or not.