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Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:49 pm

My DS (3.5) exhibits many Aspie traits, but is extremely extroverted. I'm having trouble making sense of him since I'm extremely introverted.

He does seem to have social difficulties, but seems to want to be social at the same time.

I guess his desires for social interaction mainly consist of wanting someone to wrestle with him, help him when he gets stuck building with K'nex, or listen to his monologues (he is extremely verbal).

I don't even know what I'm asking... I guess I'm asking is it possible to be an Aspie and extroverted as well?



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Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:03 pm

I am afraid of saying anything on this forums but. If I were you I'd reaserach ADHD + asperger = someone who can be extroverted, express himself, but he won't get what you're saying. They tend to be choleric..



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Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:09 pm

I am akwardly and in a roundabout way capable of being extroverted...in the sense that I am a stage person...I have gone through phases where I was really loud and bouncy and talked to everyone...and was how-you-say unaware of what a fool I was making of myself...blind as I can be to social cues and whatnot.... :?



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Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:18 pm

Call me a pedantic little professor if you will, but before this is threaded any further I want to have it pointed out that the word is extr-a-vert.

And, yes; in my case, it is this aspect that made me assume something along the lines of borderline ps; and manic depression (bipolar) before that.


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Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:34 pm

I am naturally extroverted.

Introversion was a learned trait from failure and the resulting punishment for failing to fit in.



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:34 am

I was always the "loner" in school. At some point I began to observe (in a near-clinical sense) how the "popular people" behaved and how I might adopt some of those behaviors to achieve similar results.
At this point in my life I can be the freakin' life of the party. I'm a social/entertainment columnise for crissake! But its 100% an act based on observations of those I hang out with.

Point being: Casual acquaintences of mine think I'm the most outgoing person they know. I'm in the paper, on the radio and even on tv once in a great while for working at community events.
But those that really know me know that I spend my time at home with the phone and TV off, quilting and reading and blogging and keeping to myself until I have another performance to make.



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:44 am

I don't know...

It used to be natural for me to speak up about something that came to mind to even a complete stranger. I don't know, anymore esp. after being diagnosed, I feel like I have to process what's going on around me before I say anything.

I've always had the problem of people interpreting me wrong...and you'd think it'd be the other way around. So now I keep to myself unless I can come up with a resonse that seems befitting. There's a part of me that wants to chat or talk to people but it's too damn hard!


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Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:58 am

i am definitely extraverted around people i've become comfortable with, and sometimes with strangers too. at a certain point you just stop caring about what other people think.
for me, introversion is my natrual state when nobody is dragging me out of the house, and if i'm out in the world but still within my mind it's a result of either uncomfortableness showing my true self to certain people or a reaction to serveral days of overstimulation.

extraversion with asperger's/ADD still presents a problem with social difficulties, i think even more so. just because you're no longer holding yourself back doesn't mean the words you let fall out are going to be the right ones. i can be rude and only realise it 2 days later, once it's too late. i would definitely pay attention to his social skills since he has a great potential to hurt feelings and alienate other kids without intending to or knowing why. he needs to know what is appropriate to say and what not to say, how to explain and apologise when he's said the wrong thing, how to understand the jokes/sarcasm of others, and how to confront others whose comments towards him may not be so friendly. i've struggled with this all my life.



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:08 am

If I weren't an Aspie, I'd be a social diety.

Aspergers makes me inatly withdrawn in most social settings. However, in situations where normal peer-to peer actions are thrown out the window, I excell.

Case in point:
I took a course in public speaking, called the Dale Carnagie program (look it up, it is THE best program of it's kind and it can be found internationally). During the program, participants learn to be open and to not worry about looking like a fool. At the end of the program, all of the people vote on the one person that best demonstrates the people skills taught in the course. The winner of that award was me. And the rest of the class was entirly comprised of NT's, as far as I know.

However, I still find it socially awkward to interact with others in normal circumstances. I can be quite personable if not for my complete failure at small talk and less meaningful discussions.



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:17 am

I'm starting to suspect AS in my older brother, and hes very extraverted. He monologues about 3 Things. His boat, fishing and his gun collection. At the same time hes got rather poor verbal skills and tends to back up and over explain things.

Factoid: Firefox' spell check shows it as extrovert. This isn't the first time its wrong. www.freedictionary.com shows both spellings as correct.


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Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:34 am

Yeah, it's possible. The symptoms of Autism automatically make someone appear as an introverted individual, even if they're not.

An extraverted "aspie" will go out and be amongst people, it's just that they probably won't interact with them; they're drawing the "energy" they so require by being around people.



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:27 am

gsilver wrote:
I am naturally extroverted.

Introversion was a learned trait from failure and the resulting punishment for failing to fit in.

Yes, I agree. Same here.



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:52 am

I am very extroverted naturally but the problem is I talk too much, out of phase, oddly stutter (especially when nervous); but never when not and just feel completely awkward. But nonetheless I have a group of neurotypical friends I hang out with regularly (sometimes very large groups of mostly aquaintances)

But when it comes to women I suck. Hands Down haha

Missconstrue: Like you, I have a hard time relaying my message to people and seriously I think about it and then end up sounding like a complete moron. I just found out I have aspergers so yeah it's resignating in like everything I do now... awareness of inferiority...



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Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:59 am

I am extroverted and autistic. I really like what some on this topic already said because I experienced some of it too. Like overstepping boundaries a lot, talking too much, the clash between my attempts to interact and my ability to interact as it is appropriate to most people or being taken as an introvert due to autistic symptoms.


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Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:42 am

Thanks for all your responses.

Just wanted to point out that both "extravert" and "extrovert" are in the dictionary.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/extrovert

I look forward to more responses. Especially if any of you extroverted Aspies remember what it was like being a small child.



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