Neurotypicals, what do you think of them?

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02 Apr 2011, 10:44 pm

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Empirical evidence is a valid form of research. Many doctors use this site for that reason. many of the tests used in dxing asperger's are posted here. And the confirmation of signs and symptoms by a knowledgable, informed and experienced community can help guide someone to self diagnosis. In many cases, it is irrelevent. If someone FEELS they belong here - that they have found a group of individuals with which they can finally connect - then that is usually good enough for many.

There are those here that agree with you - I'm sure. I have just found this community much more accepting of people as individuals - not as a diagnosis.

The 'labelling' issue is a whole other ball of wax...


I'm sure this community is more accepting of people and that many find it easy to connect with people from this community. But it is still wrong to self diagnose yourself simply to enter a group or fit in.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:02 pm

NotCrazy wrote:
draelynn wrote:
Empirical evidence is a valid form of research. Many doctors use this site for that reason. many of the tests used in dxing asperger's are posted here. And the confirmation of signs and symptoms by a knowledgable, informed and experienced community can help guide someone to self diagnosis. In many cases, it is irrelevent. If someone FEELS they belong here - that they have found a group of individuals with which they can finally connect - then that is usually good enough for many.

There are those here that agree with you - I'm sure. I have just found this community much more accepting of people as individuals - not as a diagnosis.

The 'labelling' issue is a whole other ball of wax...


I'm sure this community is more accepting of people and that many find it easy to connect with people from this community. But it is still wrong to self diagnose yourself simply to enter a group or fit in.


LOL... I'm not sure you recognise the irony in that statement.

...to simply enter a group or fit in... The inability of which brought many of those self dxers here in the first place. People who have spent decades not understanding WHY they could never fit in anywhere, who have finally found people that they can talk to and identify with sometimes in surprising ways for the first time in their life. This site has become a haven for all those adults who never had the benefit of early intervention.

Why, exactly, as a self confessed NT, are you so personally offended by self diagnosis? What exactly is it you see these people stealing from the dxed community? Why do you think it is some sort of desirable or advantagous thing to consider yourself an aspie? The self diagnosed are not 'stealing' services from the DXed because you need to be DXed to get services. Aspies have a wide range of functionality, many are living as 'normal' functioning adults that are just learning about a side of themselves they never understood. What threat do they pose to the autistic community if they choose not be formally DXed at this point in their life?



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02 Apr 2011, 11:11 pm

NotCrazy wrote:
I'm sure this community is more accepting of people and that many find it easy to connect with people from this community. But it is still wrong to self diagnose yourself simply to enter a group or fit in.


And what makes you think that a significant proportion of people have done so?

You have made it abundantly clear that, in your opinion, all self-diagnosed aspies are scum. That no one reaches that determination out of a sincere belief that they actually have an ASD. That even those who are in the process of formalizing that diagnosis are deluded to think they have "it." Do you have anything to back up your insulting positions?

Are there people who behave as you insinuate all self diagnosed aspies do? Certainly. Is that a bad thing? Unquestionably. Are those people a majority of the self-diagnosed? I see absolutely no reason to think so. You obviously do. Please share your reasons with us, instead of just demanding that people justify themselves to you.



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02 Apr 2011, 11:54 pm

The same way that I thought of them three years ago, when I first posted in this thread. They're just ordinary people like us.


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03 Apr 2011, 5:03 am

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The same way that I thought of them three years ago, when I first posted in this thread. They're just ordinary people like us.

Exactly. There are good guys and bad guys with autism too.



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03 Apr 2011, 5:18 am

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The same way that I thought of them three years ago, when I first posted in this thread. They're just ordinary people like us.


You couldn't be more right.
Ever since I was diagnosed at 8 years old, I was always told that Asperger's is just a disability, involving experiencing a few difficulties, and some social delays. That doesn't make me any less human than anyone else on this planet. That doesn't make me any worse than any one else on this planet. Doesn't make me better than anyone else either, but it doesn't make me worse. Like all NTs, I have thoughts and feelings and emotions, and I am an individual like everyone else, and maybe NTs should give me a chance a bit more, but that applies to me aswell: I should give them a chance too. I don't expect other people to change completely to get along with me, the same as I don't expect myself to change completely to get along with them.

In the adult world, I've noticed more that everybody is different, and whether you're NT or NL, you are still an individual who has as many human rights as the next person. Just because NTs can have a better idea of socialising, doesn't mean they are perfect, and doesn't mean that their socialising is some sort of talent what never goes wrong and stays perfect.


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03 Apr 2011, 8:53 am

Some of my best friends are NT's. Some of my worst enemies too. :lol:

But the same could be said of Aspies.

There's no getting away from it one way or the other.