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05 Feb 2009, 11:44 pm

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Does he mean smoking pot or getting caught?

He probably wants people to think he means smoking pot. But in all honesty, he probably really means getting caught.

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Something like 40% of Americans have smoked pot (if I remember right, well above the percentage of Dutch that have), so let's not pretend all pot users end brain dead


I'm just as big a stoner as anyone, but using the average american as a basis for comparison isnt the greatest idea. We(americans) do kind of have a reputation for being stupid and doing absolutely idiotic things.


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06 Feb 2009, 12:22 am

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Turns out Phelps is a drunk driver, too.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/ ... 4380.shtml


Also, why does everyone that enjoys weed seem to totally ignore it when people on pot do bad things. saying its them and never the drugs. Right.


Do people not do bad things when they're not 'on pot'? Having smoked weed in the past i know that its not always the weed. Too many people hide behind it and use it as an excuse. "It was the weed" "i was smoking bongs" "i was so stoned" the person smoking aswell as those judging them blame the weed and not the person too often in my opinion. Really the person should be taking the rap and not hiding behind "awww but i smoke weed". I've seen it before... when the person is completely unprepared to take responsibility for their actions.

I've seen people who dont smoke do just as bad if not worse things. Dont get me started on alcohol....



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06 Feb 2009, 12:41 am

electric_black wrote:
KenM wrote:
Turns out Phelps is a drunk driver, too.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/ ... 4380.shtml


Also, why does everyone that enjoys weed seem to totally ignore it when people on pot do bad things. saying its them and never the drugs. Right.


Do people not do bad things when they're not 'on pot'? Having smoked weed in the past i know that its not always the weed. Too many people hide behind it and use it as an excuse. "It was the weed" "i was smoking bongs" "i was so stoned" the person smoking aswell as those judging them blame the weed and not the person too often in my opinion. Really the person should be taking the rap and not hiding behind "awww but i smoke weed". I've seen it before... when the person is completely unprepared to take responsibility for their actions.

I've seen people who dont smoke do just as bad if not worse things. Dont get me started on alcohol....


It's true, pot is very bad... Just last week I was riding the bus when a pregnant 72 year old woman with her newborn baby got on, followed by a bong that was fully loaded with the evil herb... well the bong pushed the old lady out of the way and ran for the only available seat, sending the old lady flying one way and her newborn the other... when the lady asked the bong to give up the seat for her, the bong hauled off and kicked her right in the nuts.

True story.

It isn't people that are bad, it's the drugs.



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06 Feb 2009, 8:03 am

kalantir wrote:
pbcoll wrote:
Something like 40% of Americans have smoked pot (if I remember right, well above the percentage of Dutch that have), so let's not pretend all pot users end brain dead


I'm just as big a stoner as anyone, but using the average american as a basis for comparison isnt the greatest idea. We(americans) do kind of have a reputation for being stupid and doing absolutely idiotic things.


It's not that different in Britain or most other developed countries - that it is lower in Holland just shows how ineffective bans are at actually lowering consumption in the long term (just as binge drinking isn't that much of a problem in Switzerland, where the drinking age is 16 for beer and wine, and 18 for spirits). Short of using Taliban-style harshness, this sort of ban never works.


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11 Feb 2009, 9:48 am

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it would have been more approproate if he was caught doing a 'depth charge' :lol:


What is a "depth charge?"



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11 Feb 2009, 10:01 am

Well obviously it is two things one swimming/water related, and another smoking/weed related. c'mon slowmutant use your reasoning skills.



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11 Feb 2009, 10:10 am

That's really going to ruin his career.



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11 Feb 2009, 10:24 am

0_equals_true wrote:
Well obviously it is two things one swimming/water related, and another smoking/weed related. c'mon slowmutant use your reasoning skills.


I'm not into drug culture. There's gotta be all kinds of terminology I don't know.



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11 Feb 2009, 10:32 am

This is such a dumb story and it really irks me.

Legalize pot, in the name of democratic capitalism. :pirat:

It quite possibly could lead us out of our recession. The best way to create revenue is to give the people what they want and then tax it.

Also, it would free up the prisons and courts. (A penny saved is a penny earned).



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11 Feb 2009, 12:37 pm

What kind of social changes would be triggered by legalizing pot, apart from the most obvious?



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11 Feb 2009, 12:42 pm

Not sure but look how crappy things were during the US alcohol prohibition. A few morons here in Appalachia are still living it. (Moonshiners and stupid blue laws)



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11 Feb 2009, 12:49 pm

Does legalization mean unrestricted, totally unmonitored use? How about people just smoke up in the privacy of their own homes and not everywhere, anytime? Obviously, we can't have people getting high on the job. Crane operators, surgeons, bankers, none of these people should show up to work stoned.



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11 Feb 2009, 1:03 pm

Most people I know who go to work stoned do a better job when they are high rather than when they are sober. They usually tend to smoke just enough to get a buzz. Or they eat a small ball of bhang (usually mixed with a yogurt based drink called Lassi) which is essentially crushed leaves of the plant, totally legal in India, although it's illegal to sell it without a license (few licenses are distributed, mainly only in holy places like Varanasi) except during the one-day festival called "Holi". Even so, the police turn a blind eye to distribution of cannabis. The buzz from a small ball of bhang lasts approximately 8 hours.

I guess it's a good thing that stoners in India realise that smoking such amounts of weed not only gives a pleasant buzz, it also helps them in being active. Whenever I've seen foreigners smoke weed, they tend to smoke huge amounts, and lie down for 2-3 hours doing nothing. >_>

Indians believe that small amounts of weed (bhang) are good for health, while moderate amounts (marijuana) tend to be semi-poisonous, and high amounts (hash) tend to be poisonous. Although this is entirely false and it really depends on THC content, you get the picture...



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11 Feb 2009, 1:05 pm

I don't see why this should be a big deal....



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11 Feb 2009, 1:20 pm

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Most people I know who go to work stoned do a better job when they are high rather than when they are sober.


How much responsibility do these friends of yours have?



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11 Feb 2009, 1:43 pm

slowmutant wrote:
Does legalization mean unrestricted, totally unmonitored use? How about people just smoke up in the privacy of their own homes and not everywhere, anytime? Obviously, we can't have people getting high on the job. Crane operators, surgeons, bankers, none of these people should show up to work stoned.


The rules should be the same as drinking and smoking. (Not sure how that would be monitored since thc shows up the urine a lot longer than alcohol - yet is never as impairing as alcohol.)

Smoking-wise, it should follow the same laws as local tobacco smoking laws.

Perhaps pot offends you on an ethical, religious, or other dogmatic level - but the health and economic benefits and facts are worth looking in to. Not to say you should take it up - but maybe you will be a little less offended by people who do smoke.