Being short
Even I got picked on several times by guys of different sizes in night clubs , should I say that the taller picked me on because I am shorter than him?
That doesn't make sense.
Besides, a short guy usually would avoid to mess up with a taller guy because he would most probably got beaten up. Why putting himself in such risk?
You're using your personal rationalization to explain the actions of all people; not effective or accurate. Same as anyone tall saying that -all- shorter people have insecurities, there is no accuracy in blanket statements. Yes - those I know who share my stature but not my condition are also affected by the problem. While it may not make sense to you, LPP... this is something we experience.
M.
but that why you are doing and that what solinoure was doing (note that he said "you short people") so you are talking about all short people or short people in general.
And no , I ma not using only my personal rationalization but also my personal observation and memory, I do not recall any single short guy who only picks on taller people.
Besides, as Hector worded it , if a short guy picks you on then it's Napoleon complex and if a taller guy pick you on , he means it. Are all your bullies were short?
Do you have the same problem I have? For the most part, I'm too tall for the regular size clothes stores and too short for the big and tall size clothes stores. I have to search the margins of both to find stuff to wear. bleh.
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As with everything a generalisation is just that. Just because 100 short people don't like people taller than themselves, does not mean the 101st person will. And besides height is all realtive anyhow.
If a girl or guy has a hangup about their height it is THEIR problem. It doesn't mean the next one will. I am sure that your direct gaze or poor body language of voice prosody has more to do with lack of girlfriend/boyfriend than what ever heigh you may or may not posess.
Hell, I'm 6'4", can speak english et parlez français (study still progressing though). Almost graduated university (45 credit points to go), only earn 55k a year but I do partially (along with a bank) own a house, drive a convertible (sweet ass sports car), and can dance (been swing dancing for 3 years, and have even done performances on stage with a troup).... and I've NEVER had a girlfriend.
so to end the discussion, HEIGHT largely has NOTHING to do with it. It's all about social skills. Hell a guy from high school that I ran into recently is 5'2" and married with two kids. SO THERE YOU GO.
Short people (i.e. those below 5'10" (census average for here in Australia) who b***h about their heigh being the defining reason why they can't get a girlfriend annoy the hell out of me too, so take my comments with a grain of salt.
(oh along with that superficial list of stuff that women "apparently" like I am a socially awkward guy who stares too much, talks monotonously, and doesn't like physical contact with other human beings. so yeah, perfect candidate for an example)
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Being tall isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I'm 6' 7" and I've never had a girlfriend.
I tried taking some kung fu classes at one point. It really sucked. The sifu/sensei/self righteous homo always used me as an example because I was the biggest. It got old real fast. I've never been able to stand the self righteous jerks who are into martial arts ever since. I'll just carry a gun from now on.
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I am sure some statistic would say otherwise.
Even I got picked on several times by guys of different sizes in night clubs , should I say that the taller picked me on because I am shorter than him?
In terms of a flat out fight, or similar, yes, a smaller guy will almost certainly get creamed or worse all things being equal, but larger people generally have to hold back, especially in the eyes of the law, and people will try to use this to their advantage in terms of social recognition.
I am sure some statistic would say otherwise.
Huh? What? What you have quoted is all my oppinion. I seriously doublt you can find any statistic that what my oppinion is, is anything other than what I say it is.
But go ahead, find me a statistic that says that I actually don't believe it when women say they don't care about women's male hight preference.
I would be amused if you can find a statistic that shows I do care about breast size. (I suppose that I sort of do. I suppose that I would take exception to extreem outliers in breast size. But given that I have dated pretty far to both extreems it would be a trick to find ones that were objectionable in size for me.)
Likewise, if you could find a statistic that says that I am not happy with a girls breast size if she is, or contrarywize that I am only happy with a girl's breasts if she complains about them all the time.
But, in truth, I jest, in all seriousness I don't think the quote you are objecting to on statistical grounds is the one you are actually objecting to. Try again - or show me the statistic that show that the oppinion I hold isn't the opinion I hold. Wait a second... you aren't calling me a liar are you? Themz iz fighten werds... LOL
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Last edited by solinoure on 14 Apr 2009, 5:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
To be honest, I have never met a tall guy who's complaining about his height other than you two. And I have never met a short guy who would risk to put himself in an embarrassing situation by challenging very tall guys like you.
Maku, let's say that 20 guys bullied you during your entire life , 10 of them are shorter and 10 of the are taller , do all those 10 shorter guys challenged you because they want they are insecure of their height while the 10 taller guys did it because they're just mean?
The obsessions, the insecurities, everything were the same. Smaller breasted women had the same mental issues over their breast size as short men over their height and likewise with larger breasted women and tall men.
Given this, when women say they they don't care about height in man - I believe them. I really don't care about breast size. If the girl is happy with what she has, I'm happy. What I don't want is to hear her whine on and on about the size of her boobs.
QFT. The worst is when they try to shift all the blame on you, when instead of 'I'm unhappy with my bust size' or 'Other people criticise my breasts' it's 'You must be unhappy with my breasts because I say so, therefore I'm unhappy (and it's all your fault)' I don't know if that sort of attitude is common among short men.
This was a significant factor in the breakup with my ex.
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I'm male by the way (yes, I know my avatar is misleading).
Maku, let's say that 20 guys bullied you during your entire life , 10 of them are shorter and 10 of the are taller , do all those 10 shorter guys challenged you because they want they are insecure of their height while the 10 taller guys did it because they're just mean?
I don't know if this is directed at me. But I quite like being 6'5". Allows you to see stuff from far away, and over the heads of the crowd so I don't have to be in it very long. Slightly annoying finding clothing, but all in all it is a very nice functional quality to have. Especially the seeing over people thing.
The point I was making, and probably GoatOnFire as well before getting slightly side tracked is that being tall is not a guarantee of success. Largely (and as long as your within normal range) height isn't a deal breaker. On the other hand it isn't a deal sealer either.
If you got crap social skills and other "awkwaardnesses" then your just as likely to be alone at 6'+ as you are at 5'0"
Do you have the same problem I have? For the most part, I'm too tall for the regular size clothes stores and too short for the big and tall size clothes stores. I have to search the margins of both to find stuff to wear. bleh.
Constantly. Very disproportionate shoulder to waist, so what fits the shoulders hangs on the rest of me and the arms are never long enough. If I were to get a tailored shirt, I think the measurements were 18, 38/39 - kind of a pain.
LPP - I can only speak for myself, but I don't believe at -any- time in this conversation (or another, that matter), have I generalized and said that this was indicative of all short people, or referred to "you short people" - I've been careful to mention that these are people I've met, who have created confrontation, without other apparent cause - and at times, later explanation from them or others. So we're both talking about experience - it's ok that they aren't the same, or have I missed a memo somewhere? And no - one of the worst bullies I faced in my life was bigger than I was then, or even now. It does not correlate that all short people are bullies - false syllogism on your part, methinks.
M.
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