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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Science classes teach science -- that is, the currently held theories and principles that govern the scientific world. Once new ideas gain wide acceptance in the scientific community (as they have in the past), they are taught as science.

I figure if ID is good enough to be taught in science classes, it's good enough to stand up to the scrutiny of the scientific community, and it hasn't really.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One recent discovery was Intelligent Falling, ( http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512 ) this is a replacement for gravitational theory (which is just a theory) which I think takes the argument iagainst suicide out ( at least by jumping from a height). If you look at all the people who have jumped from cliffs, buildings, even good old Beachy Head and consider who was accelerating them......
I take your point kev729 and have no problem with christians in general, the "christian right" though is a different matter. Having said that I'm sure it's only a minority there that I would seriously have problems with.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I hate it when Intelligent Design is seen as the "death of all reason". Quite the contrary. Besides, Intelligent design theory is not necessarily God, it can be aliens, or another force. I see it as God though. And why is the mention of God so "offensive" (btw, I hate that word and how it is used now!)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because they start with the premise that there is a God, dose not mean that it is an unproven belief. Besides this is what science does anyway, try to find evidence supporting a particular belief.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't the mention of "God" thats offensive, it's the way some use it as a blunt instrument to beat their ideas into others. Other ideas like patriotism are used in similar fashion. If "God" is a personal inspitration, fine, If you want to accept the word of the Bible literally, fine. Spending millions of dollars on spurious science and hitting people with the god argument when they reply is what is really causing the concern at the moment. Extreme fundamentalist think tanks are exporting their "educational" websites and advisors to other countries. It makes those of us who are not faith based feel we have been disenfranchised. how do you answer someone who has no proof, but insists he is right because "God" is showing him the way?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jb814 wrote:
how do you answer someone who has no proof, but insists he is right because "God" is showing him the way?


Yes, Mr President?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humour in the news forum, Goshm whatever next.
Anyway, since I rarely make myself clear, here is a link that is a little clearer.
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scary stuff... Shocked

interesting link that.
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