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iamnotaparakeet
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| kreb1958 wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Israel needs our help and we should do all we can. One nation surrounded by her enemies is not fair, Israel needs all the help it can get. |
Israel should come clean and own up to possessing atomic weapons, and also not expect USA to hold her hand when her neigbours wave their sabers. And not oppress the Palestinans. |
The ownership of a weapon is not the matter, but rather the expressed intentions of the owner for the weapon's use. Compare modern Israel to Iraq and Iran.
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The_Chosen_One
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Both have nukes, both are willing to blow their enemies to kingdom come, no matter what the cost. The only difference is that the Americans whole-heatedly sponsor the carnage that the Israelis would commit because they gave them the weapons in the first place. All because of some freaked-out idea that te bible said that land was theirs first blah-de-blah. Using that crappy logic, the Abos here and your native Indians would fell justified in pissing all us white folk off because they 'owned' the land first. Never mind that civilisations now stand and were created by the ones who took over the land (granted the Jews also had a civilisation in Palestine but the Romans conquered it in 68 CE) and we would have just as much claim to our lands as those who were here before us. So just because it says somewhere in that book of yours that the Jews have more right to that land because of some promise, remember also that i) can anyone actually verifiy that promise as fact? (probably no, given that today it would all be here-say) and ii) promises are generally always broken. To me, all this fighting in the middle east over religion and land or whatever is just a load of rubbish anyway, and any sane person should move on to more important issues, such as where they are getting their next meal and paying the utility bills.
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The_Chosen_One
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Ask Raggedy Man and parakeet. They seem to be the experts (you know, former drips under pressure) on the subject. 
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | The ownership of a weapon is not the matter, but rather the expressed intentions of the owner for the weapon's use. Compare modern Israel to Iraq and Iran. |
QFT.
If Israel was as bad as all the antisemites... er, anti-"Zionists" proclaim, Gaza and West Bank would never have been given back to the Palestinians.
And ever since having been given that land, the Palestininans have done nothing but demonstrate why it was one of the worst mistakes ever made. |
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| Mc_Jeff wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | The ownership of a weapon is not the matter, but rather the expressed intentions of the owner for the weapon's use. Compare modern Israel to Iraq and Iran. |
QFT.
If Israel was as bad as all the antisemites... er, anti-"Zionists" proclaim, Gaza and West Bank would never have been given back to the Palestinians.
And ever since having been given that land, the Palestininans have done nothing but demonstrate why it was one of the worst mistakes ever made. |
Also, another good question is why Disney hasn't sued that Islamic children's program for copyright violations and etc.
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iamnotaparakeet
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Islamic Egyptians.
Why is it that so many Americans, other than myself, think that we shouldn't help Israel? She is our ally and she is surrounded by her enemies. Why should we join the list of nations against her? If we aren't for her, then we are against her.
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it money not religion
america cares about money not religion
And I agree with the west not pushing religion on people
because who has the right to say which religion one must fallow?
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| Kilroy wrote: | it money not religion
america cares about money not religion
And I agree with the west not pushing religion on people
because who has the right to say which religion one must fallow? |
Nobody.
But the West isn't the one pushing religion on people. That would be Muslims... maybe not some of the ones that live in the West, but pretty much everyone who doesn't hate HamAss or the Hezbos.
But the people who are against Israel are somehow convinced that George W. Bush is trying to instate a Christian Theocracy (their evidence being one quote that he probably didn't actually make), and at the same time scream that quotes from Islamic religious leaders calling for the globalization of Islam are "taken out of context"... that is if they bother to say anything besides calling you a racist. |
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I dont wanna mbe a muslum
wonder how they'd try and make me 
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They'd hold you at sword point and offer you your life. Also, if you choose your life, you are no longer allowed to be gay and you have to be circumcised.
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Thats the Jews, you prat. For a born-again bible-bashing Christian you seem to know a lot about other faiths.... Not.
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| The_Chosen_One wrote: | | Thats the Jews, you prat. |
No it's not, you dipstick. If it was, then Israel wouldn't have among the best gay rights records in the world and be a major center of gay culture.
Why don't you just start quoting from the Protocols to justify your Israel hatred? It's completely phony horseshit, but at least it doesn't require a complete deficiency of common sense to believe. |
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| keep your petty squabbling out of an official thread reminding people of our guidelines. |
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