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SpaceStace
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Location: New York City
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| Hey, guys who want to be taught fashion and social skills should try out for "Beauty and the Geek." You get to team up with a beautiful woman, learn from her, get a total makeover, and as a bonus, you get to help her to be less insipid. At least, that what the show seems to me - I haven't watched but part of an episode here and there. |
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Shale
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Joined: Jan 15, 2007
Posts: 534
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty much how that show goes, yeah. From what eps I did see, half of those guys have gotta be Aspies 
It's essentially that though - guys learn some fashion sense, self-respect (for their outward selves), social skills...while they in turn change a basically stupid pretty girl into someone with some more substance, intelligence and worldly knowledge 
Entertaining, but a rather shallow show overall. |
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PseudoHare
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Joined: Dec 09, 2007
Posts: 14
Location: In A Dark, Dark Wood.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Fashion eludes me, I have no idea what it is at any given time, I don't really notice what other people wear unless it really draws my eyes to them. It depends though. On my partner, I love jeans, a tee-shirt, and his long hair, which is gorgeous.
Myself, I like strange or different shoes or boots, fishnets and tights, pinstripes, layers, vests, sometimes lots of colour and sometimes some black, lots of accessories. Like necklaces, rings, bracelets. I have dyed hair and am tattooed.
The reason I dress in that way is because I hate to look in the mirror and see myself as 'uninteresting' to look at. If that seems superficial, well that's how I am. I do not judge people on the standard of their clothes; the mirror-thing is something that applies to me only.
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Pandora
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Joined: Jun 18, 2005
Age: 47
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Location: Townsville
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| SpaceStace wrote: | | Hey, guys who want to be taught fashion and social skills should try out for "Beauty and the Geek." You get to team up with a beautiful woman, learn from her, get a total makeover, and as a bonus, you get to help her to be less insipid. At least, that what the show seems to me - I haven't watched but part of an episode here and there. |
Ha, just what we need - another one of those silly "reality" shows. 
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Birdgirl
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Joined: Dec 14, 2007
Age: 19
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand fashion, either. If it fits then that's good enough, I say.
I've wondered, though.. What do people think of girls dressing in a more androgynous way? Not tomboyish, but like.. Suspenders, men's coats or dress shirts, etc? I wear those type of things a lot (usually not all together, but yeah). Really girly stuff just does not work on me-- although, I do often wear victorian looking stuff (with a long skirt, boots and suspenders for instance). I like combining opposite styles and themes. Likewise, I prefer to dress in a way that's both feminine and masculine. |
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kaytigirl
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Joined: Sep 30, 2007
Age: 17
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Location: charlottesville v.a
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: wow |
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you know shale you really should write a book for teen girls because you took an unpopular braniac with questioable fashon sense feel so good about herself, thank you so much!
<3 Kayti    |
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Shale
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Joined: Jan 15, 2007
Posts: 534
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Kayti - always comes down to the question, do you feel good and do you feel what you're wearing makes you look good? 'Questionable' is what makes things interesting. Heck, look at a lot of the people out there that really catch your eye for being unusual. If you look closely a lot of the items they are wearing are not currently in fashion, are not of 'high fashion', or are even hand-made by the wearer themselves. Put it all together though, and do it like you MEAN IT, and you get something unusual, outrageous and often very attractive and alluring 
Oh and don't beat yourself up over being unpopular, a brainiac or having questionable fashion sense. It all fades with the future, particularly as you discover who you really are (doesn't happen til after you're 18, anyone who claims otherwise just so happens to be in denial ) - and people start to APPRECIATE those features as your best, rather than as shortcomings |
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Aurore
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Age: 18
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Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Shale you are officially my hero. Though I've learned the rules of hygiene and matching, etc. (though I will always be very eccentric in my dress) your post was a godsend for my brother and my husband, who are both farther down the spectrum. : )
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0hanrahan
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OP - I think I fit into the spectrum because I often used to make posts into long narratives. I had to skip yours after the 3rd paragraph
I normally have more patience, but today I'm in a hurry and need to be out soon.
Language of Fashion: This was brilliant. There is a language and a codebook that we can use to decipher a person. I know kids hate being deciphered based on their trappings, but come on... be honest and admit that you choose your attire to express who you are. There's no guarantee that everyone will be accepting of who you choose to portray.
Why people, mostly NTs you say, judge based on what we where? You already answered that with your second idea: LOF
Despite being set in a civilized (debatable) technological society, we are still programmed for the primitive and tribal. The primitive side most notices sexuality and or alpha qualities. The tribal senses group people and decide where they fit in. In the ancient world it would have been
Goths, Sioux, Zulu, Picts, or whatever. We pick different tribes now.
I think the tribal and birds of a feather view is often lost on the dateless crowd. People don't believe it, but it's valid I believe. If you're a male that likes Emo girls, and wants to date emo girls, you had better learn to dress and look emo. Same with Hippies, Urban hip-hopsters, goths, Moderate young professionals, Sports types, etc.... High School never ends, it's only an exaggerated trial by fire. Life after high school may be more subtle, but the elements are still there.
The question now is, how do you reconcile having to be a working professional and achieving a look?
Women have many more choices and will attract all types of males. Females also have more fashion choices. How do males work with less on their pallet? |
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gekitsu
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Age: 25
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Location: bavaria/germany
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| 0hanrahan wrote: | | How do males work with less on their pallet? |
my opinion: expand the pallette. nah honestly, sounds stupid, but why not break a few rules for the sake of oneself?
i certainly know there are a few pieces of clothing that are considered girls-only that id love to wear, too. im looking for a black skinny neckholder top, right now, as i think its a nice alternative to black sleeveless shirts (skinny, of course). |
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pandabear
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Age: 49
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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There is a TV show called "Fashion Police", where you may be able to pick up some pointers on how to dress, particularly if you are attending the Grammy Awards or some such gala.
http://www.eonline.com/fashion/fashionpolice/ |
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marmotta
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Joined: Feb 27, 2008
Age: 34
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Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:38 am Post subject: |
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I watch Style network's How Do I Look?
Where was this poster when I was younger (and had a shape other than sphereical?) |
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pandabear
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/05/AR2008030503063.html?wpisrc=newsletter
Rumpled Senate Democrats Share Their Fashion Secrets
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) is more than willing to dispense fashion tips to those who comprehend Schumerese. (By Mark Wilson -- Getty Images)
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) is a man who stands accused of many things -- loving television cameras, the New York Giants and the sound of his own voice, for example -- but never in his storied career has he been called a fashion plate.
And no one in his or her right mind would suspect Schumer of having a European tailor. Which is why his (loud) conversation aboard a recent northbound train came as such a shock to two informants, who also happened to be sitting in the same first-class car.
Schumer, along with the equally unfashionable Sens. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) and Bob Casey (D-Pa.), were headed to Philadelphia on Friday to attend a fundraiser for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, which Schumer chairs. A young woman who works at the DSCC rode with them. The senators, uncharacteristically, happened to notice her stylish clothes and were overheard complimenting her necklace.
Leahy, whose idea of haute couture is a pair of Birkenstocks and a flannel shirt, mistook the aide's green necklace for authentic jade. She confessed that it wasn't and that she had bought it at Target. Which prompted Schumer -- speaking at his usual 60 to 80 decibels above normal -- to tell his aide and colleagues about his French tailor.
"His name is Jay-Say Pennay!" shouted Schumer, using a variation on "Jacques Pennay," the more common faux-Francophilic pronunciation of J.C. Penney.
Schumer does have a thing for fashion, apparently. He offered legislation last summer with Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) to fight piracy and protect New York's fashion designers from (mostly Chinese) rip-offs.
Asked about his French tailor, Schumer confirmed and quipped, "And I do all my shopping at Tarjay." (That's Target for those who don't parle Schumerese.) |
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daveybaby
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Age: 23
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Location: East Brunswick, New Jersey
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe this has been mentioned before on this forum, but what's the deal with the long coats? (could be trenchcoat, robe coat, not always black) The kids I hung around with in college 2 years ago all wore them (sci-fi club) and I would certainly not consider many of them "goths" but instead as aspie kids (anime club, comic book dorks). I bought one and wore it during the winter (to fit in with said kids even though I didn't particularly understand the trend). |
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RainKing
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| I understand the importance of attire to NT's but I still don't feel like I should try to fake it. It just doesn't make sense to me. I wear t-shirts and jeans, and I don't even own anything fancy that fits anymore (except sweatpants, but those are only for home ). When it comes to the opposite sex, however, the attire that I am most attracted to is a t-shirt and jeans. I don't like when women show cleavage. I don't like jewelry. I think that the way that I dress is just functional and authentic, and my ideal woman would dress the same way. If she's attractive, she doesn't need to wear goofy expensive clothes to look good, and I think that rule should apply to me as well. I don't ascribe any of my failures to the way that I dress, but to my other communication problems. |
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