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Tequila
Brewed in Britain
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| They shouldn't and it might be considered a little disrespectful but they're going to do it anyway. It's the Internet and it's only natural. And the 'women's forum' posts show up along with the others in the 'latest posts' pages. |
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nzfiona
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I see. It's natural to be inconsiderate of others' wishes.
How silly of me to not realise that.
And if a woman says "I don't want men replying to this post", I guess she should just have to put up with that.
If I don't want you replying to an issue, then don't.
It's NOT an open sub-forum, it's a women-only one, and good grief, if men really want their own 'men-only' sub-forum, then why the heck not? And men making comments such as "but what if we don't want our own sub-forum?" is a moot point.
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gwenevyn
asdf forever
Joined: May 07, 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for the confusion about this, Fiona. I'm uncomfortable deleting specific posts from your thread because I have not been instructed on this particular issue. I am going to ask the other mods for their thoughts on this rule that Hale_Bopp posted. For now, please be advised that men will be posting in this section of the forums.
Oh, if you want me to remove the whole thread, since you're now aware that men can and do browse this section, just say the word.
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Tequila
Brewed in Britain
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Age: 20
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Location: Lancashire, UK
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| My advice would be this: if you want to ask about personal ladies' things do it somewhere where you won't be identified. I wouldn't ask about some very personal things where I'm well-known so it works both ways. |
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hale_bopp
Ruffle some Feathers
Joined: Nov 03, 2004
Age: 23
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Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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If you asked them not to post, Fiona, it would have been fair if they respected your wishes. You can't stop them reading it, but if they post something stupid it deserves to be deleted.
I'm not very active here anymore, sorry.
Edit: If you didn't ask them not to post, then they probably thought you didn't care. Just remember to mention it in the header or post next time  |
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ZanneMarie
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Joined: Jan 28, 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a thought. No means no.
Here's another thought - stop caring what they read or think. It's very freeing.
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auntyjack
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Joined: Feb 03, 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| LogicGenerator wrote: | You know very well that some women believe you are beneath them and therefore your opinion is unimportant.
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o i do like a male who is beneath me. ;) |
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Dhp
Pileated woodpecker
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Age: 35
Posts: 181
Location: Florida, United States
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:42 am Post subject: Personally... |
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| I have an opinion. I think that this was one of the dumbest ideas on WP to have a one gender based forum. It's just the other gender bashing in disguise and censorship to the other gender. If women have private matters to discuss, send emails to those that want to listen. But anyone should be able to read anything that is public, and a forum is a public presentation. We do not live on islands, folks. Even aspies have small close circles that they make here or in real life. Private matters should be private, and forums should be public. |
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MissConstrue
Aquarius
Joined: Feb 05, 2008
Age: 26
Posts: 11459
Location: Anywhere but HERE!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Wrackspurt wrote: | | Oh geez, give the poor boys a section of their own. Put them out of their misery here... |
I agree, I've never seen so many men freak out. |
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Claradoon
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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This issue usually has my head spinning. I have an idea that might take the anguish out of it, at least for me. Should the description of the Forum be modified a little? Presently, it says this:
Women's Discussion
This is a place where women can feel safe to be themselves. "Having a male gynecologist is like going to an auto mechanic who doesn't own a car."
"Women's Discussion" and "safe place" sound to me like privacy is being offered. If it said "This is a place where men and women can discuss women's issues" then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
I feel betrayed if somebody offers me privacy and then offers my whisperings to the public. If no privacy is being offered, it would be much kinder to say so in the description of the Forum.
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gwenevyn
asdf forever
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| Claradoon wrote: | This issue usually has my head spinning. I have an idea that might take the anguish out of it, at least for me. Should the description of the Forum be modified a little? Presently, it says this:
Women's Discussion
This is a place where women can feel safe to be themselves. "Having a male gynecologist is like going to an auto mechanic who doesn't own a car."
"Women's Discussion" and "safe place" sound to me like privacy is being offered. If it said "This is a place where men and women can discuss women's issues" then I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
I feel betrayed if somebody offers me privacy and then offers my whisperings to the public. If no privacy is being offered, it would be much kinder to say so in the description of the Forum. |
Hi Claradoon. We actually already modified the forum description a couple months ago, removing the part about "No guys allowed." That change seems to have resolved the confusion issues that used to crop up occasionally. Perhaps you are remembering the impression you had of the old description?
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ClosetAspy
Deinonychus
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Age: 51
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For those of you women who have endured ongoing harassment because you have large breasts:
Have you considered a breast reduction? I was a double D and for years I endured just what you describe and worse. It was only until a physical therapist suggested breast reduction that I was able to do something about it. My surgeon said that if he couldn't get insurance approval because of physical reasons (shoulder problems), he would send me to a psychologist. He said "I know they will cover it for that, but I don't think it will be necessary." It wasn't. I had the surgery, and while he didn't take as much off as I would have liked, it is not as prominent as before and the sexual harassment has definitely dwindled. It's sad that some of us have to resort to surgery to stop that kind of attention but hey, if it works. (I totally understand why some Muslim women cover themselves from head to foot!) Anyway I feel much, much better since I had the reduction. |
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Kitsuneguy21
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Joined: Mar 14, 2008
Age: 21
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| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Triangular_Trees wrote: | | Quote: | | I think what you're talking about here is more a social anxiety problem, and I think you need to make peace with your breasts instead of making a blanket statement about leering men making you uncomfortable when perhaps a bit of skewed perception may be involved. |
Making peace with my breasts won't stop men from reaching out and grabbing them, or otherwise touching them, because there so "full" or "large." which used to happen once every few months before I started wearing baggy clothes.
And thats not to count all the nasty comments in between about sex and whatnot. The stares are there, even my friends have noticed. And don't say well you just have to be careful where you go because I have the right to be walking in a mall or walmart, or to ride rides at amusement parks. Indeed if men didn't react that way, and so frequently at that, my only problem with them would be that they prevent me from carrying things and of course the back pain.
When you go out in public in a goddamn sports bra and regular cut t-shirt and thats what you counter, its not a social anxiety problem. Its a pervert problem. And even men who aren't perverts, look for their own gratification. I have the right as a human being to not be a sex object. That doesn't mean I have social anxiety, that means I desire to be treated like a person, not an object. Why do you have so much animosity to someone wanting to be treated like a human rather than a bed toy?
Just because I didn't always make contact doesn't mean I couldn't notice the fact that it was more rare for a man to be looking towards my face than it was for him to be looking toward my chest during a conversation. |
If you saw a guy who looked like he had a huge penis, would you not be tempted to look? What if he was self-concious about having women stare at him? |
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Aridarr
the Homicidal Maniac
Joined: Oct 01, 2005
Age: 20
Posts: 1293
Location: Over the stars...?
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| Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Kitsuneguy21 wrote: | | Triangular_Trees wrote: | | Quote: | | I think what you're talking about here is more a social anxiety problem, and I think you need to make peace with your breasts instead of making a blanket statement about leering men making you uncomfortable when perhaps a bit of skewed perception may be involved. |
Making peace with my breasts won't stop men from reaching out and grabbing them, or otherwise touching them, because there so "full" or "large." which used to happen once every few months before I started wearing baggy clothes.
And thats not to count all the nasty comments in between about sex and whatnot. The stares are there, even my friends have noticed. And don't say well you just have to be careful where you go because I have the right to be walking in a mall or walmart, or to ride rides at amusement parks. Indeed if men didn't react that way, and so frequently at that, my only problem with them would be that they prevent me from carrying things and of course the back pain.
When you go out in public in a goddamn sports bra and regular cut t-shirt and thats what you counter, its not a social anxiety problem. Its a pervert problem. And even men who aren't perverts, look for their own gratification. I have the right as a human being to not be a sex object. That doesn't mean I have social anxiety, that means I desire to be treated like a person, not an object. Why do you have so much animosity to someone wanting to be treated like a human rather than a bed toy?
Just because I didn't always make contact doesn't mean I couldn't notice the fact that it was more rare for a man to be looking towards my face than it was for him to be looking toward my chest during a conversation. |
If you saw a guy who looked like he had a huge penis, would you not be tempted to look? What if he was self-concious about having women stare at him? |
Women are not obsessed with penises the way men are with breasts. And are you suggesting it would be acceptable to grab a man's penis because it is so full and large? Assuming it isn't, why is it any better for a man to touch a woman's breasts without her consent?
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okay
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| Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| I agree this is sort of rude. There should be a "Men's Discussion" forum as well. |
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