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lastcrazyhorn
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 Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: Hillary Clinton and Autism Speaks . . . |
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What do you think of her for getting in tight with Autism Speaks?
http://autisticbfh.blogspot.com/2007/11/more-bogus-autism-promises-from-hillary.html
http://www.autismspeaks.org/press/hillary_clinton_walk.php
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4342
| Quote: | "Driven by their love and devotion to their children, mothers and fathers across the country have raised awareness, demanded funding, and opened our eyes to the needs of so many of our children living with autism," Clinton said. "It’s time we had a government and a President that recognized the seriousness of autism and addressed it head-on. It’s up to us to reclaim the future for our children, and ensure that every child can live up to his or her God-given potential."
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| Quote: | | "Recognizing the autism epidemic as a national public health priority deserving of Presidential attention, Senator Hillary Clinton today endorsed and detailed a number of policy positions long-supported by Autism Speaks and its predecessor organizations and long-needed by the many American families facing the challenge of autism." - Autism Speaks |
I doubt that she'll read it, but I just wrote her a message through her contact page on her site.
This is part of what I said:
Instead of embracing what makes humans diverse, you have promised to combat it. How about working to combat bullying in schools? Did you know that it is estimated that 90-100% of kids with some form of autism are bullied in schools? Nearly 100% bullied. Where's the coverage for that?
Did you know that people on the spectrum are less likely to judge others on the color of their skin, sexual orientation or gender? That's something to combat? Most people with Asperger's Syndrome have either normal IQ or above normal, oftentimes running into the genius range.
How about the thousands of autistic people who have been institutionalized just because they couldn't communicate in the "normally accepted way"? How do you feel about the Deaf community; should they be fixed too?
Or are you going to take the traditional view of the past?
"It's your fault for being odd; you brought this on yourself. Thus, the people who prejudice, those who vehemently hate people who are different from they, the bullies who triumph in almost every setting, are absolved of all fault; once again teaching the next generation that hate is acceptable and tolerance is not. Will you be part of this right to hate, or will you stand up for the rights of those who have never been stood up for? We have been let down so many times by people who should have kept us safe; people in authority who were supposedly there to help us; people older and supposedly wiser than us, who turned a blind eye to our pain at the hands of other people who were justified because they were 'normal' and we were not.
* Jim Sinclair says this in “Don’t Mourn For Us" (http://www.jimsinclair.org/dontmourn.htm):
"This is what we know, when you tell us of your fondest hopes and dreams for us: that your greatest wish is that one day we will cease to be, and strangers you can love will move in behind our faces."
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AspieDave
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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What do I think of her getting tight with "Autism Speaks"??
Honestly? Scares the living hell out of me. ANYBODY getting tight with those people scares me.
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Shows she is trying to find her niche.
She also called autism an epidemic.
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Cirrus
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| While I appriciate her attempt to seem interested in autism, it's clearly pandering. Politicians pander and essentially attempt to buy votes. Her heart may be in the right place on this but her brain and mouth clearly are not. What you sent/are sending to her is the right message but it may be in an unnecessarily aggressive (angry) tone. (I don't mean that as a shot at you but if it is actually read, it may just come off as hate mail towards her as opposed to trying to inform her.) Your quote from Sinclair best sums up the message she should realize (but I doubt she truly cares about the issue anyways). It's tough to think of politicians as humanitarians and what she said demonstrates how uninformed she is on the subject. How can she support something she doesn't even understand? I'm on the same wavelength as you on this... annoyed. |
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lastcrazyhorn
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Cirrus wrote: | | While I appriciate her attempt to seem interested in autism, it's clearly pandering. Politicians pander and essentially attempt to buy votes. Her heart may be in the right place on this but her brain and mouth clearly are not. What you sent/are sending to her is the right message but it may be in an unnecessarily aggressive (angry) tone. (I don't mean that as a shot at you but if it is actually read, it may just come off as hate mail towards her as opposed to trying to inform her.) Your quote from Sinclair best sums up the message she should realize (but I doubt she truly cares about the issue anyways). It's tough to think of politicians as humanitarians and what she said demonstrates how uninformed she is on the subject. How can she support something she doesn't even understand? I'm on the same wavelength as you on this... annoyed. |
Hm, I guess you're right about the angry tone. But, I could have gotten a lot angrier. At least I didn't do that. I'm just tired of people saying they're going to do something and then end up kicking me down the stairs, you know?
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tmad40blue
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| In my opinion she's just signing as many economic policies to childrens' organizations like this to make herself look good and get elected. I don't really think she has any interest at al in autism. I wouldn't vote for her anyway if I was of legal age to vote. |
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Odin
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Another reason not to like Hillary. 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think Ms. Clinton is pandering, I really think she is behind Autism Speaks, all the way. That doesn't mean she knows squat about autism, it just means that she clearly has "taken a side". I don't care for her and as I've said before, this is just "icing on the cake". I'm now more interested in Obama and Huckabee and what they have to say about our health system, educational system as a whole.
I thought McCain was cool but his campaign has all but puttered out. |
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HILLARY CLINTON IS AN ******IDIOT******! As much as I dislike obama, I hope he wins the primary(or some other person besides hillary does), JUST so she doesn't go further.
H.C. Just wants to SOUND compassionate, caring etc.... It is all an ACT! She speaks one moment about not staying home, baking cookies, and/or standing by her man, and the next moment says she is for the family and supports him. She FINALLY gave up on the stupid idea of healthcare, and NOW flaunts it as a gift waiting. GIVE ME A BREAK!
She ALSO thinks she can simply move the US out of IRAQ! STUPID! That is what got us into this when Jimmy Carter tried to quietly, and MORONICALLY, save the Iran hostages. He made the US seem weak, and stupid, and middle east relations have NEVER been the same.
One woman for hillary spoke of how americans are now hated and feared. She seems to imply that is 100% the wrong way, and that the republicans want that. NEITHER is true!
The Americans aren't feared! NO Patriotic or reasonable American wants decent people to fear/hate them. The indecent people MUST fear the U.S.. If they fail to, they may get hostages, overthrow governments, build nuclear weapons, make threats etc... Sound familiar? I preached this idea in the 70s when I was in junior high! When an idiot by the name of Jimmy Carter ignored the issue. |
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lastcrazyhorn
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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| tmad40blue wrote: | | In my opinion she's just signing as many economic policies to childrens' organizations like this to make herself look good and get elected. I don't really think she has any interest at al in autism. I wouldn't vote for her anyway if I was of legal age to vote. |
Well, my point of view is this: look at it from a numbers standpoint. Now, we [wrong planet] have, what, nearly 16 thousand members? I know that we're not all Americans, let alone all voting age, but there's still a large chunk of us that are. And she just thumbed her nose at the lot of us.
Compare that to the Autism Speaks forum member numbers . . . They have about 5.7 thousand members and a scant 717 of them are active.
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2ukenkerl
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton and Autism Speaks . . . |
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| lastcrazyhorn wrote: | What do you think of her for getting in tight with Autism Speaks?
http://autisticbfh.blogspot.com/2007/11/more-bogus-autism-promises-from-hillary.html
http://www.autismspeaks.org/press/hillary_clinton_walk.php
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4342
| Quote: | "Driven by their love and devotion to their children, mothers and fathers across the country have raised awareness, demanded funding, and opened our eyes to the needs of so many of our children living with autism," Clinton said. "It’s time we had a government and a President that recognized the seriousness of autism and addressed it head-on. It’s up to us to reclaim the future for our children, and ensure that every child can live up to his or her God-given potential."
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| Quote: | | "Recognizing the autism epidemic as a national public health priority deserving of Presidential attention, Senator Hillary Clinton today endorsed and detailed a number of policy positions long-supported by Autism Speaks and its predecessor organizations and long-needed by the many American families facing the challenge of autism." - Autism Speaks |
I doubt that she'll read it, but I just wrote her a message through her contact page on her site.
This is part of what I said:
Instead of embracing what makes humans diverse, you have promised to combat it. How about working to combat bullying in schools? Did you know that it is estimated that 90-100% of kids with some form of autism are bullied in schools? Nearly 100% bullied. Where's the coverage for that?
Did you know that people on the spectrum are less likely to judge others on the color of their skin, sexual orientation or gender? That's something to combat? Most people with Asperger's Syndrome have either normal IQ or above normal, oftentimes running into the genius range.
How about the thousands of autistic people who have been institutionalized just because they couldn't communicate in the "normally accepted way"? How do you feel about the Deaf community; should they be fixed too?
Or are you going to take the traditional view of the past?
"It's your fault for being odd; you brought this on yourself. Thus, the people who prejudice, those who vehemently hate people who are different from they, the bullies who triumph in almost every setting, are absolved of all fault; once again teaching the next generation that hate is acceptable and tolerance is not. Will you be part of this right to hate, or will you stand up for the rights of those who have never been stood up for? We have been let down so many times by people who should have kept us safe; people in authority who were supposedly there to help us; people older and supposedly wiser than us, who turned a blind eye to our pain at the hands of other people who were justified because they were 'normal' and we were not.
* Jim Sinclair says this in “Don’t Mourn For Us" (http://www.jimsinclair.org/dontmourn.htm):
"This is what we know, when you tell us of your fondest hopes and dreams for us: that your greatest wish is that one day we will cease to be, and strangers you can love will move in behind our faces."
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ELOQUENT WORDS!!!!! I MEAN THAT! They are, sadly, wasted on the likes of hillary.  |
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lastcrazyhorn
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: Hillary Clinton and Autism Speaks . . . |
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ELOQUENT WORDS!!!!! I MEAN THAT! They are, sadly, wasted on the likes of hillary. |
Thanks.  I also posted it in its entirety on my blog so I could feel the satisfaction of someone actually reading it.
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lastcrazyhorn
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Now compare her view on autism to some of the others involved . . .
Edwards:
| Quote: | "Autism affects families from every walk of life. Sometimes I talk about the Two Americas – but when it comes to fighting for families affected by autism and autism spectrum disorders, we must come together as One America to deliver on our national promise – helping every child realize their full potential." -- John Edwards
Autism and autism spectrum disorders affect an astonishing 1 in 150 children. More children than ever before – a 700 percent increase over the last decade – are being classified as having an autism spectrum disorder. We need to learn more about why the number of children diagnosed with autism and autism spectrum disorders has been growing. We know that early intervention is often crucial to helping children with these diagnoses reach their full potential, but the education and health care resources needed to help them and their families are strained to capacity. For families, caring for a child with autism can be expensive and emotionally draining. While Congress took an important step last year by dedicating more than $900 million to address autism over the next five years, more can and must be done. [IDEAData, 2005; CDC, 2007]
John Edwards believes every child deserves the opportunity to reach his or her potential. Helping everyone reach personal independence and assume social responsibilities is a responsibility we all share. His Promise and Potential plan will:
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http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/health-care/autism/index.html
Obama:
| Quote: | Support Americans with Autism. More than one million Americans have autism, a complex neurobiological condition that has a range of impacts on thinking, feeling, language, and the ability to relate to others. As diagnostic criteria broaden and awareness increases, more cases of autism have been recognized across the country. Barack Obama believes that we can do more to help autistic Americans and their families understand and live with autism. He has been a strong supporter of more than $1 billion in federal funding for autism research on the root causes and treatments, and he believes that we should increase funding for the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act to truly ensure that no child is left behind.
More than anything, autism remains a profound mystery with a broad spectrum of effects on autistic individuals, their families, loved ones, the community, and education and health care systems. Obama believes that the government and our communities should work together to provide a helping hand to autistic individuals and their families. |
- from (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/)
Richardson:
| Quote: | "I'm not for single-payer, universal health care," he said.
Richardson said he would focus on preventive health measures, like requiring mandatory physical education in schools and "getting rid of junk food" in school vending machines, like he did as governor. Further, he would double funding for the Centers for Disease Control, since there is a spiking incidence of HIV/AIDS in minority populations.
"It's an epidemic," Richardson said, and he put autism in the same category. |
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/12/13/news/top/3715a9dca21a6bcf862573af00835dbb.txt
| Quote: | Autism
First of all I am for strongly increased research on autism. The number of children in this country affected by autism is just staggering. [1 in every 150 children] Comprehensive and universal access to health care is part of the solution. I fought for increased funding in New Mexico for outreach, education, treatment and awareness. This is something that I have been talking about on the campaign trail everyday and it will be a priority in my administration. |
- http://www.richardsonforpresident.com/issues/healthcare
Republicans later . . .
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| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Instead of Hillary trying to fix the condition, she could focus on the full blown ones instead. Would you want to live you life being mute, not being able to take care of yourself, and have to live in a home where you can be taken care of. I know there are auties out there who do live on their own but have a caregiver that helps them out.
I wouldn't want to live my life being LFA.
And about deafness, I would want it fixed if I were deaf. I wouldn't want to be deaf. If I was deaf in one ear, fine but if it was limiting what I can do like it stopped me from driving a car, sure I would wish I could have that ear fixed.
There are things about me I'd love to fix in my head. I'd love to get rid of my learning disability and cognitive thinking problems, get rid of my problems with figuring stuff out, comprehending, retaining information. Then I wouldn't feel so stupid and low functioning.
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| Hillary is an excellent politician, just like Bill. By that I mean she figures out exactly what she needs to say to a particular group of people so as to buy as many votes from them as possible. Then next week when she's speaking to someone else, she'll have a brand new platform. She's a condescending political whore of the most despicable kind. |
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