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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it my autistic daemon that makes me spend hours trawling the net for pictures of Kylie Minogues boobies? If so, can someone send round an exorcist? [You can see, despite reading this thread twice, I have been unable to understand its point.]
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zarathustra wrote:
Is it my autistic daemon that makes me spend hours trawling the net for pictures of Kylie Minogues boobies? If so, can someone send round an exorcist? [You can see, despite reading this thread twice, I have been unable to understand its point.]



You need to look below the surface of what you are doing. Trawling the net for pictures of KM is a manefestation of the demon's control of your mind that the original poster is suggesting. The demon isn't actually telling you to look for the pictures, he is changing your perception of the world.

I can't believe I am entertaining the orignal posters thought, but as I mentioned earlier, the thought crossed my mind that I am battling something inside me. It sure feels that way sometime.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zarathustra wrote:
Is it my autistic daemon that makes me spend hours trawling the net for pictures of Kylie Minogues boobies? If so, can someone send round an exorcist? [You can see, despite reading this thread twice, I have been unable to understand its point.]


Where you successful?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inventor wrote:
Danielismyname wrote:
People with autism can show magical thinking; if one doesn't like that which they are, it's easy to personify, and then demonize the parts they don't like and give it a label--it's not really my fault that I'm like this, it's the monster. I use, '...it's the "autism".'

It's just another label.


The OP is right, all of your worship of self and science books, has left you livinging an illusion defined by the DSM. Your illusion takes constant updating, and drugs.

There is no evidence that anything causes Autism. There is no evidence of structural change.

It is a made up word to cover a percieved differance. There is no treatment, no drug, for it does not exist.

So why do so many feel the need to leap forward and denounce any vision other than your own?

Three Mods? Is there an Offical Wrong Planet world view? PC Autism?

It seems your grasp of reality is narrow and exclusive. I am shocked that so many have bought into the false religion of psychology and science of the last 40 years. The DSM is the new black book of spells, and you will be saved by denouncing all other views of life? True Belivers?

What cannot be simply fit into your world view gets labeled, It's one of those fundamentalists, I am offended, It's just that humanity isn't what you thought it was? I do not care what you said, I speak for everyone on Wrong Planet, go away!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alphawolf wrote:
Perhaps the true demon is the the one misguiding your understanding of what it means to be an autistic living on the autism spectrum of disorders. As autistic people we have issues, challenges, talents and joys. I rule my autistic world that is my home during my escapes from sensory overload. My autistic world is my place of solitude as such there is no place for demons in my world.

If you see demons in everything I suggest you find qualified medical help and the correct type and dosage of medication. I heartily disagree with your premise and every single word you shared in the body of your statement.


I think what underlying is saying is that he lives in a world where he was cast as a demon, a byproduct of having a condition and being smack dab in the middle of a religious world. Maybe he is comparing himself to being defective because of esteem issues and religious rebellion.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Averick wrote:
Alphawolf wrote:
Perhaps the true demon is the the one misguiding your understanding of what it means to be an autistic living on the autism spectrum of disorders. As autistic people we have issues, challenges, talents and joys. I rule my autistic world that is my home during my escapes from sensory overload. My autistic world is my place of solitude as such there is no place for demons in my world.

If you see demons in everything I suggest you find qualified medical help and the correct type and dosage of medication. I heartily disagree with your premise and every single word you shared in the body of your statement.


I think what underlying is saying is that he lives in a world where he was cast as a demon, a byproduct of having a condition and being smack dab in the middle of a religious world. Maybe he is comparing himself to being defective because of esteem issues and religious rebellion.


i think this thread was just started by inventor.......... talking as/to his demon... still trying to destroy all the world he cannot ammend.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I give up I am totally confused. I will curl up in the corner and watch the electronic pigeons.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="InventorEverything the OP says about eye contact is true. It is studied in Martial Arts, and in the knowledge teachings of Tibet, where some things are learned through one eye at a time. The occipital lobe is a complex but fun place to play. For one, the Tibetians learned to correct eyesight without glasses. They also use the eyes to reach into another. [/quote] Then why does the Dalai Lama wear glasses then? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note: Not that I could pride myself with having understood I think, I naturally misunderstand people all the time.


In the end, it's all human in a human. There can't be anything that isn't, although our fear of that which we fail to grasp is twisting our idea of reality into making us believe that what he perceive as the utmost evil by identifying it as non-human is - just us.

I always found it prosperous of people that they are putting everything they can't understand, whether because they haven't see it yet themselves or because it's a contradiction that only appears as such and does so often in the nature of humanity, in little boxes that go to different shelves so that they won't get confused by a passers-by.

Humans have written it all down from ancient times on and one of those relics is still present as the bible today (although the Ancient Egyptians sure had a better idea in my eyes). God and the Devil contradict each other and people want this duality to come to an end - but in reality, it's not at all a contradicting theory, the one of Devil and God. There's only one origin.
People don't want that, they never want contradictions but see them all the time and that's something I fail to understand. My life is full of it, I recite from the latest neurological theory just to start on deeply spiritual matters afterwards while the science book stills rests in my lap and the thoughts remain in my head (literally).

All that is here right now was there by the time it started, so how could a human ever be something it isn't supposed to? That thought is so horribly human.

Human nature is a wild mix and to preserve the mix true to it's nature it even creates extremes.

In order to 'crash' your brain there first must be the possibility and the outcome possible - otherwise it's not going to happen. It's not like a possible outcome is always happy life, it's easy to see just by noticing there are enough embryos and babies dying.

Everything possibility happens as it is supposed to happen. Don't get me wrong - That's mere existence. It doesn't mean you don't have to get up walking and do something about the worth, about exploring, understanding and integrating all possibilities into your world-view by yourself and yourself only. So what follows the raw fact of existence is what we all do about it. Like science or believes or sitting in front of the computer and writing a post on WP, really. We need everything we have, but we mustn't like it the least and we have the right to think of it as problematic. (To establish society for example, we need to make use of all that above.)

Not to say time makes it easy for us, it's a true hassle actually, 2008 and we still have such a long way to go in all matters, but I can't find myself crying by my inability to make everything perfect according to what I wish. I don't find the end to be of any interest. Imperfection is entertaining and, controversy so, an important asset to being alive.


Yeah so... wow... that's how my world looks like by the way. I dislike arguing, no need to do so, but I'm always very fond of people disagreeing with me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and im ok as a pot arguing with the kettle... if only for the blow-off of steam... as that's what we do.

but i still laugh at those who claim not to identify with either yet still quibble over pigment.

edit: fencing on pointless internet grammar
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an academic myself, I agreed with another poster. Where are those wealthy scientists? Most academics make between $80,000U.S. and $120,000 per annum. The salaries in private industry are sometimes a bit higher, but not by much.

I suppose, as an aspie, I could not identify with anything the OP wrote. Even when I was a very low-functioning aspie, as a child, was on neuroleptics and received electroconvulsive therapy (shock treatments), I still doubt I could relate to what he said. I always, for the most part, liked myself. My anger was directed at others for how they treated me, not at myself. My Asperger's autism drove me into a coerced seclusion - one in which I was free to pursue my preoccupations by myself.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kylie Minogue has boobies?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demons don't exist...

Be exciting if they did though.
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Touretter wrote:
Then why does the Dalai Lama wear glasses then? Laughing


Maybe he missed that memo. Wink
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Leo21k wrote:
Demons don't exist...

Be exciting if they did though.



is that conclusion drawn from personal experience?


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