AlexC179
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| I don't think I would be able to date a stripper. I have been to strip clubs numerous times in my life and almost always left disappointed and generally feeling like crap. I even got a hand job at the last strip club I went to (was in Munich, Germany a little over a year ago). I usually feel like I have paid to get blue balls. While I have talked to numerous strippers before, and have met some that are interesting people... I don't think I would want to seriously date a stripper. I have seen what goes on in those places, and it is borderline prostitution when you get a real lap dance. |
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Vexcalibur
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Hi, you didn't meet her as an striper and know you have doubts, just ask yourself what you liked about her initially, it seemed that you had an interesting relation going on. Sure she could cheat you but then so could any hot secretary do. In fact, I think that since most men that frequent those places are very insecure, you just need to show a lot more security from your part and be more than a penis and I think she will really like you and not be willing to trade. So my tip is to give her a chance. |
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D1nk0
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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WOW, Im pretty Amazed that there are ex-strippers here on WP  . But what what really drove a wedge into the prospects of me dating this girl fabshelly was her paranoia about being stalked and obsessed with. I thought I was just giving her attention and showing interest in her as a person but she took it the WRONG way and got "creeped out". Thats why I have to wonder what she Really wants in a bf....  |
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hollybee
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| she's used to being treated as an object by the guys in the club and is probably oversensitive about this in her personal life too. For a boyfriend to be happy with her doing that work, they would have to be very secure within themselves and their relationship with her, it would be difficult for anyone! |
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ToadOfSteel
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| hollybee wrote: | | she's used to being treated as an object by the guys in the club and is probably oversensitive about this in her personal life too. For a boyfriend to be happy with her doing that work, they would have to be very secure within themselves and their relationship with her, it would be difficult for anyone! |
You are quite right... I'm just saying that, however difficult it is, it should be possible.. |
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LePetitPrince
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| fabshelly wrote: | | Mind if a former stripper speaks up? |
Wooooohoooo!!! Of course!!!!
| Quote: | | They are customers. You are the boyfriend. Enormous difference. |
Same for prostitutes ....their fu**ers are customers too 
Well personally , I am not against polygamous relationships ...you can see that in my super WP famous thread: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt54014.html
This system has polygyny and some polyandry aspects but this is another topic....
BUT I am totally against uncontrolled polygamous open relationship wish let the STDs spread much more easily and much faster , this will cause more harm to humanity than good.
I am not accusing for having casual sex with customers but ....hmm but almost every stripper do it as an extra-bonus work as much every truck drivers drive like jerks.
Btw , mind to tell us why you quit stripping ?
Anyways.....if your Boyfriend doesn't mind ...well who cares? 
Would he minds if you share some dancing pictures ? (no nudity for sure)
| Quote: | | They see you as a pair of boobs. Boyfriend sees me as a person. |
not pair of boobs and vagina?
| Quote: | | I had to put on a fake persona (I'm really good at it) wear uncomfortable clothes (not much) and ... work. It's work. |
Hmmm ...faking persona (and being really good at it!) and accepting to wear uncomfortable clothes are not very usual aspie things ...but shouldn't be impossible that such talent exist in many undiagnosed aspies =).
| Quote: | | The club was noisy, but I was always in my own world. And most guys loved that. |
.... not a lovely place for a real aspie =)
| Quote: | | My boyfriend was the guy I cuddled up on the couch with in my ugly pajamas, while reading a book. |
Oh!! you read a book!! now this is the first aspie thing(not really) I detect in you so far!
| Quote: | | You know what job is closest to a stripper, imnho? A stewardess. Both have to look pretty and pretend to care about people they don't care about, who are usually difficult, in an unpleasant atmosphere. Next, really, any customer service job. |
Yea, besides prostitution , it's maybe one of the oldest customer service professions in the world |
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fabshelly
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Then, there's the idiots who think because you're a stripper that you're automatically a whore.
Honestly, you get so tired of the sex thing (mentally, if anyone even tried to touch one of us, they were out the door) that you don't even want to hear about it.
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D1nk0
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Im sure that strippers are pretty irritated with people who automatically assume that they're closet whores. But fabshelly, dont you see what I mean the difficulties of having a romantic relationship with a stripper? The problem between me and this girl is NOT that I distrust her not to cheat on me. She's so used to being objectified by men that she's oversensitive about being controlled and obsessed over. So basically I felt like I just didnt know how to behave towards her in a way that would make her feel comfortable-so she pretty much called it off and shut the door in my face so-to-speak. I tend to give people a lot of attention when Im interested/involved with them. My ex really seemed to enjoy the attention and she was kinda flattered by me
"objectifying" her because she doesnt normally get that sort of attention in her day-to-day life. This stripper girl M certainly Does. She said she enjoyed talking to me from time to time but wanted to put strict limits on how much attention I should show her and how much she would give back. I mean,for a guy with Asperger Syndrome-dating a stripper is gotta be especially difficult. |
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LePetitPrince
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| fabshelly wrote: | Then, there's the idiots who think because you're a stripper that you're automatically a whore.
Honestly, you get so tired of the sex thing (mentally, if anyone even tried to touch one of us, they were out the door) that you don't even want to hear about it. |
Yea , these are real idiots ....but smart people like me would say:
| Quote: | | ....hmm but almost every stripper do it as an extra-bonus work |
because you might not be one of these almost but I personally doubt. Besides sex doesn't only just includes penetration....sorry can't say too much details here but you know what I mean ;--) .
Besides what's so wrong about whoring? =O If she works in an Escort company as a Pro whore then it's just a customer service like any other customer service job , no ? Same thing for stripper , where there are the B strippers and the Pro strippers ,no?
A pro whore does have customers and does have a personal life and so a pro stripper and so as any stewardess ,no ?
So since you are obviously a very open-minded lady then why you find comparing pro whoring to stripping as offensive and disgrace to your old job? Aren't both Customer services ? =)
I think whores and prostitutes would feel angry by reading your post!!
If there are any former whores here on WP then they should protest against you for your discrimination against them  |
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D1nk0
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I'm just saying that, however difficult it is, it should be possible.. |
But the question is:is it really worth it?
Maybe its possible for some guys but I seriously doubt Im one of 'em. The way I relate to people just
wasnt compatible with the expectations that M had for how a guy should treat her. I dont enjoy being around
hypersensitive peole who overreact to every little thing and dont care one bit if I have good intentions. |
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LePetitPrince
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Well Dink , this is how your relationship would be like with her:
The other men would just be clients , her source of money ..... and you will be just her emotional support at home. |
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D1nk0
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| You know what LPP? When she was MORE than Happy to use me as a shoulder to cry on whenever She felt like it-such as having a bad time at work or an unpleasant conversation with her parents. But when I wanted attention or felt like confiding she kept me at arms length and accused me of obsessing about her. So THATs why I decided it wasnt worth the effort. You see, different strippers are different people but I AM convinced that such a profession attracts certain kinds of people-or at least people with certain personality characteristics. I asked my first gf if she would ever do something like that and she told me quite candidly: no!! I would Never do that!. For some women, exposing themselves to strange men they're not intimate with in a public place would makes them feel very uncomfortable. NOT everyone who's female enjoys that kind of attention! |
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Mikomi
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| gwenevyn wrote: | | shadexiii wrote: | | Mikomi wrote: | | You're making some grossly inappropriate assumptions based on nothing more than where this girl works. Just because she dances for a living doesn't make her a whore who will sell herself to the highest bidder. |
Well put. A lot more succinct than the couple of attempts I had managed to come up with thus far. |
Wha--?
So the fact that she's a stripper says nothing about her personality?
D1nk0's concerns seem realistic to me. I don't see that he claimed she's whoring herself out. |
The OP said:
| Quote: | | "Plus the very real possibility that they might cheat on me with a club patron who's attractive and tips them high enough." |
Now, take that any way you like, but to me it sounds like the OP thinks the girl will have sex with someone if they have enough cash.
And it takes a certain personality to judge someone too.
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Mikomi
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| D1nk0 wrote: | | Mikomi, I am perfectly aware that Not all strippers whore themselves to clients. I resent how you falsely accuse me of calling this girl a whore or suggesting that she's slu*ty because in fact she really isnt.What I would be worried about is not that she'd be sleeping around but that she would put up a Lot of barriers to me getting close to her and that there's nothing she'd do just for me that she wouldnt do for other men at the club-except maybe f***ing but even so. |
You said:
| Quote: | | Plus the very real possibility that they might cheat on me with a club patron who's attractive and tips them high enough. |
You contradict yourself. |
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fabshelly
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="LePetitPrince"] | fabshelly wrote: | Then, there's the idiots who think because you're a stripper that you're automatically a whore.
Honestly, you get so tired of the sex thing (mentally, if anyone even tried to touch one of us, they were out the door) that you don't even want to hear about it. |
Yea , these are real idiots ....but smart people like me would say:
| Quote: | | ....hmm but almost every stripper do it as an extra-bonus work |
because you might not be one of these almost but I personally doubt. Besides sex doesn't only just includes penetration....sorry can't say too much details here but you know what I mean ;--) .
Please post proof that almost every stripper "does it" as extra bonus work. 'Cause in all the clubs I worked, if any girl did that, the owners would fire her, and/or call the police. Customers *never* touched dancers - you could do a table dance, two feet away, or you could sit at their table for a drink, but NO TOUCHING, EVER.
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