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Ghosthunter
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Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject: V.A.P Results and Hello to Newbies by Ghosthunter |
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Hi! Those of you who are new, I am Ghosthunter.
To those who know me, welcome. I have a
overview of my test results for job apptitude and
placement scores. I was hoping that some may
contribute their experiences with such tests.
This will be a rough summary until all tests
and results are properly analyzed, I thought
to share and perhaps hear other folks experiences
with these kinds of testings.
THANKS FOR READING IT FROM BEGINNING TO END...
IMAGINE TYPING IT. And to those who can't read past
2 paragraphs of any of my writings before they get
confused, please show some patience, everything isn't
2 paragraphs, nor is life.
______________________________________
November 8th, 2005
What is cool about today? Well, to start this
train of thought you have to consider how I prepared
for this particular day.
| Steps in bleeding and healing; thus acceptance wrote: |
I find out my V.A.T results are on Tuesday,
11/7. This would be last week and did control
bleeds about my feelings and plans on the phone
with Pyraxis. This was to allow a thought to
verbal expression and release
Later I bled on the screen of Wrong Planet
viewers. This was to squeeze out the deeper
thoughts and feelings that may have been missed.
This also allowed allowed a healing process to start.
I later did a hobbies thread and questions and
answers thread for others to contribute and perhaps
express in. This was to allow the good things learned
to shine through. I bled, now it is time to let my
giving nature to shine through.
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| Pre-appointment purpose of writing wrote: |
I write this before I go to my 12pm appointment.
The path can go many directions. The point of bleeding
was to have a sense of allowing events to take their
course. |
| first w.p write-up wrote: |
To some I was griping, and that would be truth,
since in the first bled drops I did were to peel the layers
of the emotional onion called lack of communication,
and expression that over-rides the good events to
occur, thus hindering the coping skill to accept and
move on.
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| second w.p writeup wrote: |
The Positive writing was to allow the good to
shine through. I am glad to be able to do this.
Our hobbies and interests reflect ourselves and
our true strengths and sometimes weakenesses
that we have come to accept and embrace.
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| how my autistic mind works, and perhaps yours wrote: |
The thoughts unexpressed get buried in layers of
non-expressed words, thus create confusion, or reaction
to even the simplest changes.
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| how the autistic mind works PT.2 wrote: |
Then comes the ground breaking process for me
at least. I don't know how you folks break the
groundwork for reconstructing your feelings
that are neccessary for expressing and accepting
changes? |
| examples given wrote: |
Thus lets start this example I can give......
1)...The creation of words that are spontaneous
and sincere in ones brain.
2)...If unexpressed get overridden by other spontaneous
words, and so forth.
3)...By going into a zoning space the words flow
freely(thus - zoning, or perhaps stimming?), onto
a source of text. This could be ones computer,
or notebook. BUT......This doesn't start the healing
process completely for me, as a example to use.
4)...Putting it into a "in your face, in my face" airing
where there is little verbal interfacing brings these
conscious awarenesses to the surface and by putting
them into pre-posted words for all to read, they
become levels of clarity. Then the posting allows
a in my face, in your face awareness and sometimes
astonishment revealations of who and what makes
your thought process.
5)...With practice, I become more freer to express
the best way I know how.
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I am not going to be surprised if most of you don't
get this writing. I am hoping that those who grasp
my writing give their minds recipe for how they phase
in and out of transitions. This is my basic recipe,
but since I am spontaneous, not a exact formula.
How do you folks allow transition from one stage
to the next?
peeling my feeling about the pre-results of
the V.A.T wrote: |
The V.A.T is a Vocational Accessment Test.
It is to guage the levels of skills and weaknesses
that you may exhibit in the work that you may, or
may have not considered. |
| #1-Minnesota Ability Test Battery wrote: |
This is called the M.A.T.B. 12 subtests
allow clarity in the 9 basic abilities that surmise
a satisfactory performance in occupations.
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| What I remember of these tests wrote: |
I forget the test procedure, since that is
past-tense. I remember going into a county
office room and doing scan-tron like tests.
like, dislike, somewhat type responses to all
type of questions. |
| M.A.T.B breakdown! wrote: |
• 12 subtests(measures 9 different abilities)-performance!
G = General cognitive
V = Verbal ability
N = Numerical Ability
S = Spatial Ability
P = Forming Perception
Q = Clerical Perception
K = Motor Skill Perception
F = Finger Dexterity
M = Manual Dexterity
• Timed Pencil Tests were 8
• Manual Performance Tests were 4
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| #2-Minnesota Importance Questionaire wrote: |
This test will have 210 that measure 20
vocational need accessments. M.I.Q is it's intials.
• ACHIEVEMENT work value dimensions
• AUTONOMY work value dimensions
• ALTRUISM work value dimensions
• STATUS work value dimensiions
• COMFORT work value dimensions
• SAFETY work value dimensions
These tests scores are compared to a
O.R.P representing 200 type of occupations.
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| #3-Strong Interests Inventory wrote: |
This tests represents likes and dislikes.
These are reflective of your personal preferences
in the work place. This part is in my own
words. |
| The information sheet is as specified: S.I.I wrote: |
Ones like and dislikes in different occupations.
• work activities
• work envirement
• co-worker interaction
• leisurely activities?
It compares your requirements in a work
place with those successfully employed in such
professions. It will use 109 occupations
in such comparisons.
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Have any of you folks took similar test???
| The testing that I did wrote: |
I arrived and met the lady who was testing.
She was once a person like myself who sought
such services.
She had 4 types of items:
• Questionaires
• Types of manual dexterity puzzles
1)... pins and washers
2)... Blocks
3)... That is all that comes to mind!
• She was taking notes
• She asked questions.
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| Pins and Washers wrote: |
This was a 10 second timed test, and
I feel I failed it. The principal was to move
within this timed period a series of pins and
washers to one point to another.
I am not surprised that this wasn't good
for me since Grief Bros. taught me how I focus
on one thing at a time, and don't do well with
different sorting patterns and number orders.
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| moving blocks wrote: |
This was a seconds timed test. It required
moving a series of blocks from one point to
another. Also flipping them over in another
space.
I didn't do bad here. I wasn't fast at it
either though.
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| Academic Questions wrote: |
One of the tests had you do in your head
rough math in minutes timed. I was doing
ok here, and besides...it was mostly multiplication,
and Reading.
The reading one was fun. It had you read
something and asked logical and illogical solutions.
I love these challenges. I use to do them
with people in olden-days WrongPlanet. By
now the newer folks since I left the ship called
WrongPlanet as a regular posting member
probly don't know, or may not have heard of
this strength I exhibited upon you folks.
The idea was to read a theory, idea, or
something like that and surmise what was
implied, not directly meant. For most autistic
folks here on WrongPlanet, most of my simplier
stories baffle them, and thus it is in my opinion
a "how autistically challenged are you" test; though
indirectly related to the real purpose intended.
Then she had me do a word similarity, or
opposite to allow comprehension of you interpretative
skills. I am good at this, and again, most of the
WrongPlanteers of the past have been baffled by
my use of such writing, and it is often how I write.
This is a top-of-my head analysis of the tests.
I don't remember the exact details but the ones that
best illustrate my weaknesses and strengths.
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| The MIQ wrote: |
This test sucked for me since it is
where my autistic tendecies shine through.
I am unable mostly to stay conscience of
the shifting thought patterns to trick you
into a changing response of a question wrote
20 different ways.
The computer surveys taught me how
I was weak at this when applying at Box stores
in Apple Valley. I later would try to assimulate
a thought pattern as a ?insert postion, and answer
what they wanted to hear. I then got interviews
that stung me since I am not a social person
like they would like, thus ity-bittty young things
get hired and I must suffer lifes homelessness.
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| reflectively bad job choices wrote: |
Partially, My job choices down here weren't
playing my strength, thus I am eager to hear how
I fared here. I am hoping for academic training opportunities for me from this.
The academic tests I have probly fared well,
but the trick questions I may have not done well.
That is not a surprise regarding trick questions,
and since I had some box store practice to get
interviews I hope I have improved.
Hmmmmm? The objective now is to accept what
is and go on to other parts of my needs and
accomplishments that require my attention.
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Hmmmmm? This concludes my pre-results thoughts.
Hi! To you folks that are new here, my name is
Ghosthunter. I have been not a active poster
for a while due to W.P politics, but time has moved
on for the better and the negative feeling are
mostly mute for me.
I am inquisitive person that makes your braincells
work in ways that most posters don't. That is
why I often throw a disclaimer that most won't get
how I convey. I am not a "Hi! Welcome to w.p" and
that is it in the thought conveyance.
I am glad you newbies are here, it is you that bring
new life too dead things of past reflection. You are
Wrong Planet, as well as the old-schoolers.
I hope to come to know you newbies and re-aquaint
myself with some of you old-schoolers. And in
return may my writings bring added braincell stimulation
to your daily activities. I provoke thought because
that is how we grow.
It is 11:17am and my appointment is in 33 minutes.
Hopefully my cell phone gets fully charged by then?
Oh! by the way, just out of curiousity.....Which or you
posters, be you newbie or old-school dislike starting
something you can't finish?
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| After the V.A.P interview, 2pm wrote: |
To begin with, I made a writing goof.
It isn't V.A.T(vocational assessment Test),
but instead V.A.P(Vocational Assessment Placement);
So Oooops! Sorry for the Typo.
I saw Susan at 2pm and got some interesting facts
and what to look forward to. So let's see where to start?
Hmmmmm?
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M.A.T.B or Minnesota Ability Test Battery:
| The test numbers wrote: |
Here are the Letter specifics:
G = General Learning Ability
V = Verbal Ability
N = Numerical Ability
S = Spatial Ability
P = Form Perception
Q = Clerical Perception
K = Motor Coordination
F = Finger Dexterity
M = Manual Dexterity
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| types of overall scores-good! wrote: |
G = Average (a #9-10) or general learning out of 15
V = Average (a #9-10) or verbal ability out of 15
N = Average (a #9) or Numerical ability out of 15
S = Average (a #9-10) or Spatial ability out of 15
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| types of overall scores-bad! wrote: |
M = Below Average (a #3) or Manual Dexterity out of 15
F = Below Average (a #6) or Finger Dexterity out of 15
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| acceptable-not so good wrote: |
K = acceptable (a #8 ) or Motor coordination out of 15
Q = acceptable (a #8 ) or Clerical Perception out of 15
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| borderlined BAd! wrote: |
P = borerlined Baddddd! (a #6) or Form Perception out of 15
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For the record K, F, M were the blocks moved
and the pins and washers switched. This is why
Grief Bros. was what it was.
Hmmmmm? How do you fall into this weak spot
of mine, my fellow Wrong Planeteers?
| ratio or job type matches wrote: |
Best = based on M.A.T.B (3)
#16 or Security Services
#45 or Hospitol Services
#51 or Child or Adult Care
Satisfactory = based on M.A.T.B (4)
#3 or Performing Arts-Drama
#5 or Performing Arts-Music
#11 or Performing Arts-Dance
#25 or Materials Control-Laboratory Clerk, ect...
Badddd! = M.A.T.B (59)
All else in #1- #66 or all else! Duh! Dee! Duh!
Hmmmph! |
| Description Breakdown wrote: |
G, General Learning Ability or Catching onto
things, (instructions, ect..)
V, Verbal Aptitude, or Writer, English Teacher, ect...
N, Numerical Aptitude, or Engineers, Computers, ect....
S, Spatial Aptitude, or Engineers, Carpenters,
Artists, Blue Print reading jobs, ect....
P, Form Perception, or Inspecting and calculating type jobs.
Q, Clerical Perception, or office duties like filing, typing, ect..
K, Motor Coordination, or Packer of thngs, Folder of things
F, Finger Dexterity, or small parts worker
M, Manual Deterity, or Plasters, painters, ect...
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Have any of you fellow planeteers had a M.A.T.B
type test?
If so, what results?
M.I.Q, or Minnesota Importance Questionaire results
explained wrote: |
Dated 10/24/05'
-1 = Don't Care, "unimportant"
+1 = Do Care, "important"
+3 = Can't pry them away!, or Devotion!
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| Don't Cares or -1 types wrote: |
• Authority, or bossing people around! -0.2
• Social Status, or community involvement! -0.5
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| Can't pry me away! or +2.0 - 3.0 wrote: |
• Ability Utilized, or making use of my ability
• Independence, or Working alone
• Creativity, or doing own ideas
• Responsibility, or making my own decisions
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Still important, by you may be able to pry me away
or +1.0 to + 2.0 wrote: |
• Achievement, or feeling something accomplished
• Activity, being busy all the time
• Variety, or different things done
• Security, or steady employment required
• Working Conditions, or good working conditions
• Advancement, or opportunity for advancement
• Recognition, or graditude from others
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| Neither care, nor don't care, or +0 to +1 wrote: |
• Co-Workers, or making friends with them
• Social Service, or helping other
• Moral Values, or do as you will, and leave me out of it!-translated
• Company Policies, or fair business practices
• Supervision-Human Relations, or company backs employees
• Supervision-Technical, or good training practices in company
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This covers the basic M.I.Q scores how I might feel
about employers and employee feelings.
| types of suggested jobs from M.I.Q wrote: |
Architect
School Councelor
Vocational Rehabilitation Councelor
Vocational School Instructor
Interior Designer/Decorator
Lawyer
Weekly Newspaper Publisher
Occupational Therapist
Air Conditioner Mechanic
Alteration Tailor
Barber
Beauty Operator
Caseworker
Bill Collector
Commercial Illustrator/Artist
Private Employement Agency Councelor
Electrical Technician
Electronics Mechanic
Stationary Engineer
Engineering Dept. Chief
Florist(designer)
Furnace Installer-Repairer
Glass Installer(Glazier)
Locksmith
Clinical Psychologist
Counceling Psychologist
Industrial-Organizational Psychologist
Speech Pathologist
Adult Education Teacher
Agricultural Adult Edu. Teacher
Elementary School Teacher
Secondary School Teacher
Agricultural Secondary Teacher
Vetinarian
Vocational Evaluator
Metal Patternmaker
Factory Maintaince Repairer
Mechanical-Engineering Technician
Office Machine Servicer
Photoengraver(stripper of...)
Commercial Photographer
Process Artist
Repossessor
Life Insurance Sales Agent
Real Estate Sales Agent
Furniture Salesperson
General Hardware Salesperson
Sporting Goods Salesperson
Sales Route Driver
Television Service-and-Repair
Ceramic Tile Setter
Tool-and-Die Maker
Cost Accountant
Cash Register Servicer
Electrical Engineer
Civil Engineer
Mechanical Engineer
Compositor
Time Study Engineer
Machinist
Programmer(Business, Engineering, Science, ect...)
Sewing Machine Operator(Production)
Sheet Metal Worker
Statistical-Machine Servicer
Applied Statistician
Combination Welder
Technical Writer(publications)
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Quite a long list of ideas, and imagine typing
it, versus just reading it. This ends this S.I.I
or Strong Interest Inventory summary.
__________________________________
Hi, again, This is Ghosthunter. For those who
got to this point, I say thanks for your patience.
I felt that if i write the basics of the tests,
better clarity of the results can occur.
I also wanted to share the base results just
in case your curious about the test data
and how it might look.
I wonder if any of you folks had gone through
the same process of tests and perhaps you
can give the results.
Yours inquisitively,
Ghosthunter
P.S, Thanks to those who read through this.
Imagine typing it. It isn't as easy being
Ghosthunter as it may seem.
Until next time folks....POOOF! G.H disappears
back into the shadows for now! |
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BeeBee
Phoenix
Joined: Apr 01, 2005
Posts: 2257
Location: Upper Midwest, USA
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What a complete set of testing, GH! No surprises, perhaps, but a chance to sit back and think about what you are good at and how that fits with careers.
I'd love to do this privately.
BeeBee |
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Elk
Snowy Owl
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Posts: 137
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| well goodluck with that. im currently going through vocational rehab myself its just a pain in the ass i hate it. going through the system but what else can you do. you have to have money to live in this world. i think i would be a better worker if it was partime. i havent worked in about a year and live with my mom she understands my condition so no problems there but eventually im going to have to live on my own. it really wouldnt bother me to be homeless as ive been homeless before but i think i wouldnt go down that road again. it was pretty ruff, i hated being f***ing dirty that sh** really botherd me. like id freak out. haha. |
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nirrti_rachelle
Go Tigers!
Joined: Jul 22, 2005
Age: 35
Posts: 1199
Location: The Dirty South
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I always thought you would make a great primary school teacher. You have a gentle way about you and something tells me they would love you as their teacher. Have you tried practicing your skills with BeeBee's boys tutoring or helping them with homework to get an idea of what it would be like to teach?
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Ghosthunter
Phoenix
Joined: Mar 20, 2005
Posts: 2473
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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BeeBee
Forum Moderator
Joined: Apr 01, 2005
Posts: 1260
Location: Upper Midwest, USA
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:34 am Post subject:
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What a complete set of testing, GH! No surprises, perhaps, but a chance to sit back and think about what you are good at and how that fits with careers.
I'd love to do this privately.
BeeBee |
As would most people in a secret way, at least that is my
opinion. Hmmmmm? How many of you out there in the
WrongPlaneteer Universe have a secret interest in such tests?
Thanks for posting here,
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter |
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Ghosthunter
Phoenix
Joined: Mar 20, 2005
Posts: 2473
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, Elk
You are new here I think? Glad to meet you!
What are your hobbies and interests? And
best of all, what makes you a great person?
What makes you a weak person?
For me, my great characters are analyzing
and asking questions, and my weaker characters
are Not Knowing when to back off and not scare
people.
| Elk wrote: |
Elk
Butterfly
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Posts: 10
Location: Flagstaff Arizona
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:
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well goodluck with that. im currently going through vocational rehab myself its just a pain in the ass i hate it. |
Hmmmmm? Describe this horrenous process
that you express so well?
| Elk wrote: |
going through the system but what else can you do. you have to have money to live in this world. |
So true, and being under-employed sucks,
been there since ages 18-40.
| Elk wrote: |
i think i would be a better worker if it was partime. |
Do you work part-time now? If so, What do you do?
| Elk wrote: |
i havent worked in about a year and live with my mom she understands my condition so no problems there but eventually im going to have to live on my own. |
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking. I am 40
next year and mostly under-employed or less than $6000
per year on a good year. Last year will be less than $3500
the whole f***ing year. No wonder I have been homeless
most of my life. Some years $60-$500 the whole year.
The most I have earned was $10,000-$12,000 in 1998-2002.
But since San Francisco is very expensive, it needed to be
$2400 per month minium. Here in Minnesota, $1200 is the
equivelent to $2400 down there.
| Elk wrote: |
it really wouldnt bother me to be homeless as ive been homeless before but i think i wouldnt go down that road again. it was pretty ruff, i hated being f*** dirty that sh** really botherd me. like id freak out. haha. |
I have lived in abandoned mansions, buildings, alleyways
of San Francisco, Homeless shelters(hated them), and
behind office buildings that closed early, so I got good
shut eye unless it rains. ages 18-34 would fall into this period.
Describe your experiences if you choose?
Thanks for being brave and posting here,
and hope to hear from you soon!
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter |
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Ghosthunter
Phoenix
Joined: Mar 20, 2005
Posts: 2473
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi! Nirrti
I hope you are doing well?
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nirrti_rachelle
Tucan
Joined: Jul 22, 2005
Posts: 278
Location: The land of Elvis
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:47 pm Post subject:
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I always thought you would make a great primary school teacher. You have a gentle way about you and something tells me they would love you as their teacher. |
I agree, I would make a good teacher. I love
to learn from others as they learn from me.
What is so specific about primary school? You
seem to be one of knowledge and specific target
in this wording?
| Nirrti wrote: |
Have you tried practicing your skills with BeeBee's boys tutoring or helping them with homework to get an idea of what it would be like to teach?
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They have their mom for that. I try not getting
to much for her, she and I are good with each other,
but she is overwhelmed by my presence and I don't
blame her, most people are.
I try to keep the distance here with her since she has
more on her plate then most I have met. I respect
her Wonder-Mom energy and don't see my helping
being good, and more as a intrusion since she is doing
a wonderful job with her kids.
Hmmmmmm? How are you? I forget if your a student?
Thanks for posting here,
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter |
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Elk
Snowy Owl
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Posts: 137
Location: Location: Location: Location:
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| Ghosthunter wrote: | Hi, Elk
You are new here I think? Glad to meet you!
What are your hobbies and interests? And
best of all, what makes you a great person?
What makes you a weak person?
For me, my great characters are analyzing
and asking questions, and my weaker characters
are Not Knowing when to back off and not scare
people.
| Elk wrote: |
Elk
Butterfly
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Posts: 10
Location: Flagstaff Arizona
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:13 pm Post subject:
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well goodluck with that. im currently going through vocational rehab myself its just a pain in the ass i hate it. |
Hmmmmm? Describe this horrenous process
that you express so well?
| Elk wrote: |
going through the system but what else can you do. you have to have money to live in this world. |
So true, and being under-employed sucks,
been there since ages 18-40.
| Elk wrote: |
i think i would be a better worker if it was partime. |
Do you work part-time now? If so, What do you do?
| Elk wrote: |
i havent worked in about a year and live with my mom she understands my condition so no problems there but eventually im going to have to live on my own. |
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking. I am 40
next year and mostly under-employed or less than $6000
per year on a good year. Last year will be less than $3500
the whole f*** year. No wonder I have been homeless
most of my life. Some years $60-$500 the whole year.
The most I have earned was $10,000-$12,000 in 1998-2002.
But since San Francisco is very expensive, it needed to be
$2400 per month minium. Here in Minnesota, $1200 is the
equivelent to $2400 down there.
| Elk wrote: |
it really wouldnt bother me to be homeless as ive been homeless before but i think i wouldnt go down that road again. it was pretty ruff, i hated being f*** dirty that sh** really botherd me. like id freak out. haha. |
I have lived in abandoned mansions, buildings, alleyways
of San Francisco, Homeless shelters(hated them), and
behind office buildings that closed early, so I got good
shut eye unless it rains. ages 18-34 would fall into this period.
Describe your experiences if you choose?
Thanks for being brave and posting here,
and hope to hear from you soon!
Sincerely,
Ghosthunter |
yeah im new here. i like geology and science. rockhounding collecting sportstrading cards i dont realy know what other people think of me. so i wouldnt know what someone thinks of me. i know my mom likes me though. im not really a people person so i dont have any real qualitys i generally keep to myself. and so forth im 25 and have worked off and on the year before last as a dishwasher but i kept dropping all the dishes and wasnt fast enough so i had to quit that job ive known i had aspergers since i was about 18 or so i went to a psycologist and was diagnosed so then everything started making sence. my mom finally went "Oh" yeah. so now the doctor thinks i should be going to voc rehab ive been going for 4 months so i can learn how to comunicate/deal with the public. its terrible and some days i dont even go. i was homeless for 2 years on and off here in flagstaff and all around california your right about the shelters it was pretty shitty and not safe. plus there over dramatic with the christianity. i dont like having religion forced down my mouth to get a meal or shower or sleep. so i came back to my moms nice talking |
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pyraxis
Phoenix
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: V.A.P Results and Hello to Newbies by Ghosthunter |
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| Ghosthunter wrote: | I don't know how you folks break the
groundwork for reconstructing your feelings
that are neccessary for expressing and accepting
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Well, I explained it to you once a while ago... but the process is similar to yours. I start with music... there tend to be a few songs my brain's marked as dangerous, that I feel drawn to but "can't allow myself" to listen to (like "Girls of the Night" from Jekyll and Hyde or "Mary Jane" by Alanis Morrisette). Those mark the first keys. Then I get myself into an environment that feels safe, close out the world, and write. I tend to get hit by sudden irrational exhaustion when I try to write certain things - that's a sign I've hit a nerve. If I stop myself from falling asleep long enough to write it anyway, that frees it up far enough that I can try explaining it to a close friend over messenger. This time it's usually fear that gets in the way, sometimes frustration/violence. Next step after that is speaking it out loud in real-time. The thing to resist there is freezing up, cause by that point I'll have the words crystal-clear in my mind but get resistance to speaking them into the air around me. That's when "autistic" stuff becomes more apparent, because I will be incapable of eye contact, voice intonation, or posture while I'm trying to bring the words through.
But this is a pretty detached scientific explanation. I think you do a better job of describing the same stages in your words.
| Ghosthunter wrote: | | Have any of you folks took similar test??? |
I haven't. I think it would be interesting though.
| Ghosthunter wrote: | Oh! by the way, just out of curiousity.....Which or you
posters, be you newbie or old-school dislike starting
something you can't finish? |
I used to really hate starting something I couldn't finish... but it bothers me a lot less now. I think I re-arranged my priorities.
| Ghosthunter wrote: | | Hmmmmm? How do you fall into this weak spot of mine, my fellow Wrong Planeteers? |
I'm not totally sure since I've never taken the test, but I would probably be good at things that require fine motor movement and manual dexterity because of all my practice painting and drawing. I have a pretty steady hand. |
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Ghosthunter
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Posts: 2473
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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yeah im new here.
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I hope you like this place called Wrong
Planet? How has your experience been
so far?
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i like
geology
science
rockhounding
collecting sportstrading cards
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I collect 10¢ cover comics, and like ancient coins,
and Parapsychology(ghosthunting).
What is it about Geology that you like?
What is it about Science that you like?
Is there a favorite science besides geology that you like?
Rock Hounding sounds cool. There use to be
many years ago a rock hounding shop(Mining and lapidories)
in San Francisco on 10th & Howard. Mining supplies,
gemstones in the rough like opals, star stones(saphires, ect.),
and a host of equipment, books, ect.... . When the
dot.com boom hit in 2000 it lost it's lease and went away.
What kind of sports do you collect cards for?
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i dont realy know what other people think of me. so i wouldnt know what someone thinks of me. i know my mom likes me though. |
I take it your a loner like me. A bit adverse to
socializing, but find it neccessary to be around
people to feed off their energies.
How would you describe your isolation?
How do you feed off energies to recharge?
It is natural? for a parent to like her child, Well except my
Mom and her distancing effect to all her children. So would
it be natural????
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im not really a people person so i dont have any real qualitys i generally keep to myself.
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That is why wrongplanet exists. What do you find
most intertaining in you by-your-self time?
| elk wrote: |
and so forth im 25 and have worked off and on the year before last as a dishwasher but i kept dropping all the dishes and wasnt fast enough so i had to quit that job |
Hmmmmm? I dishwashed, and backarea maintanced for
2.5 years. I found the isolation and being left alone
pleasant(they let me do my job and didn't ask much of me).
Hmmmmm? Did you enjoy diswashing?
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ive known i had aspergers since i was about 18 or so i went to a psycologist and was diagnosed so then everything started making sence. |
It is good you gained perspective at a young enough
age. What ways did your diagnoses affect how your
family treats you?
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my mom finally went "Oh" yeah. so now the doctor thinks i should be going to voc rehab ive been going for 4 months so i can learn how to comunicate/deal with the public.
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I take it that people stress you out?
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its terrible and some days i dont even go.
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Hmmmm? Why ditch a good thing, I would
think they(rehab) would benefit you? We still
have to live in a I-Physical world and make $'s
as well as make ourselves happy(as much as possible).
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i was homeless for 2 years on and off here in flagstaff and all around california
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What areas of California?
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your right about the shelters it was pretty shitty and not safe. plus there over dramatic with the christianity. i dont like having religion forced down my mouth to get a meal or shower or sleep. so i came back to my moms nice talking |
At least you have a home to go to! Bless be your wellbeing.
Sincerely,
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pyraxis
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Joined: Mar 26, 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: V.A.P Results and Hello to Newbies by Ghosthunter
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Ghosthunter wrote:
I don't know how you folks break the
groundwork for reconstructing your feelings
that are neccessary for expressing and accepting
changes?
Well, I explained it to you once a while ago... but the process is similar to yours. I start with music... there tend to be a few songs my brain's marked as dangerous, that I feel drawn to but "can't allow myself" to listen to (like "Girls of the Night" from Jekyll and Hyde or "Mary Jane" by Alanis Morrisette). Those mark the first keys. Then I get myself into an environment that feels safe, close out the world, and write. I tend to get hit by sudden irrational exhaustion when I try to write certain things - that's a sign I've hit a nerve. If I stop myself from falling asleep long enough to write it anyway, that frees it up far enough that I can try explaining it to a close friend over messenger. This time it's usually fear that gets in the way, sometimes frustration/violence. Next step after that is speaking it out loud in real-time. The thing to resist there is freezing up, cause by that point I'll have the words crystal-clear in my mind but get resistance to speaking them into the air around me. That's when "autistic" stuff becomes more apparent, because I will be incapable of eye contact, voice intonation, or posture while I'm trying to bring the words through.
But this is a pretty detached scientific explanation. I think you do a better job of describing the same stages in your words.
Ghosthunter wrote:
Have any of you folks took similar test???
I haven't. I think it would be interesting though.
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Oh! by the way, just out of curiousity.....Which or you
posters, be you newbie or old-school dislike starting
something you can't finish?
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That is a good thing. How have your priority
re-arranging been effective?
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Hmmmmm? How do you fall into this weak spot of mine, my fellow Wrong Planeteers?
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That is then a good gift. I use to write well
in caligraphy. When I stopped, my writing went to shot.
What are your favorite types of art?
Thanks for posting here, and good luckon your
"Render, a wrangler ringler rangler" job!
Sincerely,
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Prometheus
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I've taken a almost identical test in HS as part of the special education program stuff. . . . .it was quite interesting for me. I don't have the results with me right now, but I'll look them up tomarrow and see what I can find/share.
Incidently, I remember that that test did do something similar with your pins and blocks. . . . .
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Tom
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Age: 27
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Location: Where you least expect it
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Ghosthunter
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Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Hi, Tom
Thanks for posting here. I wonder if you had any
similiar tests? How are you? And I just PM'd you my new
cell #
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Ghosthunter
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Prometheus
Mindless Philosopher
Joined: May 06, 2005
Posts: 1404
Location: Through the plexiglass
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject:
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I've taken a almost identical test in HS as part of the special education program stuff. . . . .it was quite interesting for me. I don't have the results with me right now, but I'll look them up tomarrow and see what I can find/share.
Incidently, I remember that that test did do something similar with your pins and blocks. . . . . |
To start with, how is your Mom, Dad, and You?
And the second thing is I am glad that you will post your
results here. I love that bravery in people. I would
definely like to see them. And by posting them here
you are demostrating bravery, thanks.
Third of all, I originally told BeeBee that the pins and blocks
and MIQ reminded me of Autistic tests(things I read about)
and you did a greeeaatt job in validatiiing my suspicion.
I realize it covers learning disabilties, but technicality, smechitality!
I am eager to see your results posted here.
Hmmmmm? Did my forum stimulate a few brain cell
in others as it did in me? I am fishing for opinions on this
particular line of question.
I think it was(the test forum) a particularly brain stimulating
handi-work.
Thanks for posting here and thanks for being brave and
posting your results here for others to learn from..
Coool!
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