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| ixochiyo_yohuallan wrote: |
Regarding the aura thing, I think it could have come from those people who have really marked synaesthesia and see whole colorful halos around others. Incidentally, many of these people also happen to think primarily in color associations, which they attach to people, feelings and just about anything else. For them there might be "yellow days", "green emotions", and, of course, "indigo people" (why not?). This is an interesting and special phenomenon and may greatly enhance one's creativity, but there is nothing whatsoever supernatural about it. |
The existance of auras and synaesthesia is not the same thing. While we know Mondays are not green (well they are to some) but might be orange to others (synaesthesia of the mind depending on personal association) the colour of the aura can be actually observed by a certain type of camera. If five people that can see auras with the naked eye would look at the same person's aura, they would see the same colour. |
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| Paperplate wrote: | | If five people that can see auras with the naked eye would look at the same person's aura, they would see the same colour. |
I would want to see that demonstrated in a controlled experiment.
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| Paperplate wrote: | I am not a New Age follower but I find the some things interesting.
A women that I don't know very well, told me years ago that I have a purple aura. I know we all have auras, you can even take a picture of it. On one of the other polls most people on this site are Aquarians. Over the past two decades there has been a dramatic increase in people being born on the spectrum, whether it is because of increased awareness or whatever. In the Hindu religion, the aim is to activate the third eye chakra, the purple one. This religion is 1000s of years old. I see a pattern in all of this. Also the Earth will be moving into Acquarius around the year 2012. Is this all a coincidence?
People on the spectrum usually do not use their energy to play mind games with others (being social) - in fact we have trouble trying to do it. We live in our purist form, making great contributions to humanity. This is for me a sensible way for human evolution to be going. |
Not to put too fine a point on it, but how can a person invoke auras, 'energy', astrology, and chakras in the same post, while claiming not to be a 'new age follower'?
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| Paperplate wrote: | | ... the colour of the aura can be actually observed by a certain type of camera. |
I think that is called a "doctored" camera.
| Paperplate wrote: | | If five people that can see auras with the naked eye would look at the same person's aura, they would see the same colour. |
Logically, as I'm pretty certain that there is not a single person that "can see auras" (whether with the naked eye, rose-tinted glasses or any other device), I cannot refute this statement.
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| lau wrote: | | Paperplate wrote: | | ... the colour of the aura can be actually observed by a certain type of camera. |
I think that is called a "doctored" camera.
| Paperplate wrote: | | If five people that can see auras with the naked eye would look at the same person's aura, they would see the same colour. |
Logically, as I'm pretty certain that there is not a single person that "can see auras" (whether with the naked eye, rose-tinted glasses or any other device), I cannot refute this statement. |
Quite right. In fact, you might want to point out that there's a million dollars for anyone who can do so. At least one person has already failed dismally at aura detection. www.randi.org
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| Doc_Daneeka wrote: | | lau wrote: | | Paperplate wrote: | | ... the colour of the aura can be actually observed by a certain type of camera. |
I think that is called a "doctored" camera.
| Paperplate wrote: | | If five people that can see auras with the naked eye would look at the same person's aura, they would see the same colour. |
Logically, as I'm pretty certain that there is not a single person that "can see auras" (whether with the naked eye, rose-tinted glasses or any other device), I cannot refute this statement. |
Quite right. In fact, you might want to point out that there's a million dollars for anyone who can do so. At least one person has already failed dismally at aura detection. www.randi.org |
A Kirlian camera takes images of the subtle electric outline eminating from all objects and these show different colours. You honestly think that all these experiments and pictures are not proof of its existance? And because you can't see it with the naked eye, no-one else can? According to these pictures, sensitive people with intuitive or pcychic abilities show a purple "aura". It so happens that "spiritual leaders" such as Buddhist monks who spend a lot of time in an altered state of awareness and most people on the Autitic spectrum have a purple coloured energy field.
The moon (yes, an astrological object) causes the effect of eb and flow of the oceans and certain crops are more successful when planted according to moon cycles. Humans being made up of a large percentage of water it makes sense that it would have some affect on us, however subtle but significant. Why do dogs howl at a full moon? I don't know but there must be a reason for it.
I find new Age stuff interseting and I think they could be on to something. |
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| Paperplate wrote: | Why do dogs howl at a full moon? I don't know but there must be a reason for it.
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There is a difference between howling when the moon is full and at the moon. Did you ask them if they are howling at the moon? No? Me neither.
When wolves howl at anytime they point their noses upwards. Its an integral part of the vocalizing. The moon has nothing to do with it.
I know you didnt invent the concept. Its ancient, but its simply invented symbolism.
So why do they howl when the moon is full? Because they and their prey animals, such as moose, deer and elk are crepuscular. They are most active in conditions of twilight; dawn and dusk. Strong moonlight allows then to extend their foraging for food. If the moon is not out you dont hear them howl because they are sleeping. |
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| Fuzzy wrote: | | Paperplate wrote: | Why do dogs howl at a full moon? I don't know but there must be a reason for it.
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There is a difference between howling when the moon is full and at the moon. Did you ask them if they are howling at the moon? No? Me neither.
When wolves howl at anytime they point their noses upwards. Its an integral part of the vocalizing. The moon has nothing to do with it.
I know you didnt invent the concept. Its ancient, but its simply invented symbolism.
So why do they howl when the moon is full? Because they and their prey animals, such as moose, deer and elk are crepuscular. They are most active in conditions of twilight; dawn and dusk. Strong moonlight allows then to extend their foraging for food. If the moon is not out you dont hear them howl because they are sleeping. |
Thank you for the explanation. I knew they howl at full moon and not at the moon but didn't know why. What do you think of astrology. I think that if everything has an effect on something else in the universe, why wouldn't the positions that these unimaginable forces assume around us, not have any affect on us. I guess the question is to what extent they affect life on earth. |
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| Paperplate wrote: | | I think that if everything has an effect on something else in the universe, why wouldn't the positions that these unimaginable forces assume around us, not have any affect on us. I guess the question is to what extent they affect life on earth. |
I can agree that everything effects everything else.
I dont feel that macro scale planetary bodies at inter-solar or interstellar distances have a measurable, verifiable, or practical effect on multicellular organisms nor their neurons, enzymes and micronized minerals and metals.I think that local phenomena would have a much stronger effect. Things such as a seasonal variations in hormones while a woman brings a baby to term, early life experiences, diet, and other environmental conditions.
Mars is infinitesimally small when you consider how distant it is. The fact that I got kicked in the head is much more likely to make me vengeful than the fact that i was born during an planetary arrangement considered auspicious for the roman god of war.I am not vengeful. I cannot recall being kicked in the head, but I am classified as a scorpio. 
So there you have it. I can agree that we have traits stemming from the season of our birth(or more correctly, the span of the pregnancy), but the methodology of a given individual is not coincident with the application of the traits of mythical figures to heavenly bodies. Tissue is not selective as to what energy effects it. |
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I still find the Idigo thing interesting
If nothing is static it could be correct to say that consciousness is a way that the universe is becomming conscious of itself. What about the fact that the people who are responsible for pushing the edges of human knowledge forward, seem to be on the spectrum. That in religions of 1000s of years old, people try to ultimately obtain that level of awareness and that autism is on an unpresedented rise among newlyborns. It seems to be the logical way to go for humanity. |
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| Paperplate wrote: | I still find the Idigo thing interesting
If nothing is static it could be correct to say that consciousness is a way that the universe is becomming conscious of itself. What about the fact that the people who are responsible for pushing the edges of human knowledge forward, seem to be on the spectrum. That in religions of 1000s of years old, people try to ultimately obtain that level of awareness and that autism is on an unpresedented rise among newlyborns. It seems to be the logical way to go for humanity. |
I find indigo to be an interestingly recently invented colour.
I've been conscious of myself for some time now, so, as I am the universe...
NB. There is no evidence of any change in the incidence of autism. Go back as far as you like, and you see the same proportion of autistics (or rather, given the limited records, people who exhibited traits that suggest strongly that they would now probably be diagnosed with autism).
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| Paperplate wrote: | | If nothing is static it could be correct to say that consciousness is a way that the universe is becomming conscious of itself. |
The universe, like planets but unlike cellular organisms, is not a real thing. It is just a linguistic convenience we use for various concepts of what is "out there." Going back to Pythagorus, and even earlier, there have been many constructions of the universe. Even today, the word "universe" is used to designate some very different, even contradictory, conceptions. An expanded version of the Gaia model, which you seem to be referring to, is only one of them.
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I think if you're seeing auras around people, you might want to talk to a psychiatrist.
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Sigh, it's another economic apartheid.
To the crimson children, you can get fine indian spices
to the indigo children, you should be exposed to Bach and Beethoven (nothing against Bach or Beethoven, they are incredible, but this is ridicoulous).
To the black warriors you should listen to indie rock music and go to liberal arts colleges
Now, anyone else?
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| SilverProteus wrote: | | I think if you're seeing auras around people, you might want to talk to a psychiatrist. |
What do they know? Except how to whip out a prescription pad?  (IMHO)
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